Jesus has broken the Sabbath

[Gary K]

It makes a huge difference if we're talking about actual letters.

The law that is written on your heart, is it written in a common English alphabet? The one we're communicating in right now?

If so, then there are some important questions you can settle

So God's law has to be written in English? What happens if a person is Chinese and can't understand English?

I think I finally understand what you're trying to get to, Yes the law is written in our hearts in whatever language we read and write. Why? Because we read God's law in the Bible. That's where we learn about it. And no, it's not some ethereal concept written in the heart. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

 

[Leaf473]

So God's law has to be written in English?

No, we're talking about your heart here

What happens if a person is Chinese and can't understand English?

I think I finally understand what you're trying to get to, Yes the law is written in our hearts in whatever language we read and write. Why? Because we read God's law in the Bible. That's where we learn about it. And no, it's not some ethereal concept written in the heart. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

 

[Gary K]

No, we're talking about your heart here

This is a foolish argument, Here is why. We come to the knwledge of the commandments by reading the Bible. That means that knowledge is stored in our minds. What is the heart. It's not a physical entity and part of it is our minds where the law is stored from when we read it. Our conscience is located in our minds. Our emotions are found in our minds as that is where everything we are as a person is located. All our thoughts, memories, learning etc.... In essence what it means to be human is stored there.

 

[Leaf473]

This is a foolish argument, Here is why. We come to the knwledge of the commandments by reading the Bible. That means that knowledge is stored in our minds. What is the heart. It's not a physical entity and part of it is our minds where the law is stored from when we read it. Our conscience is located in our minds. Our emotions are found in our minds as that is where everything we are as a person is located. All our thoughts, memories, learning etc.... In essence what it means to be human is stored there.

I understand that today we think of that as the mind.

The promise is that God would write his law in our hearts. Sure, we can say that means our minds.

Now, the law that God wrote in your heart/mind, do you say it's actual letters?

Would you be willing to reproduce a string of them here?

 

[Gary K]

I understand that today we think of that as the mind.

The promise is that God would write his law in our hearts. Sure, we can say that means our minds.

Now, the law that God wrote in your heart/mind, do you say it's actual letters?

Would you be willing to reproduce a string of them here?

Yes. I'll produce them here.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

[Leaf473]

Yes. I'll produce them here.

I see. God wrote them in your mind in King James English. And did God use all caps for the Divine name when he wrote his law in your mind?

 

[Gary K]

I see. God wrote them in your mind in King James English. And did God use all caps for the Divine name when he wrote his law in your mind?

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to say your stance is hypocritical. I would like you to reproduce what you believe are the two greatest commandments here. I have seen you do it multiple times.

 

[Leaf473]

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to say your stance is hypocritical. I would like you to reproduce what you believe are the two greatest commandments here. I have seen you do it multiple times.

As it is written in the scriptures,

Bible Gateway passage: Mark 12:29-31 - New American Standard Bible

Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, ISRAEL! THE LORD IS OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE; AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’ The second is this: ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ There is...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Gary K]

As it is written in the scriptures,

Bible Gateway passage: Mark 12:29-31 - New American Standard Bible

Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, ISRAEL! THE LORD IS OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONE; AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’ The second is this: ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ There is...

www.biblegateway.com

So you can store your two greatest commanments and reproduice them here but you object to me doing that with the 4th commandment and the rest of the 10?

 

[Leaf473]

So you can store your two greatest commanments and reproduice them here but you object to me doing that with the 4th commandment and the rest of the 10?

Those letters are not what is written on my heart

 

[Gary K]

Those letters are not what is written on my heart

Then how did you reproduce them?

 

[Leaf473]

Then how did you reproduce them?

I posted a link from Bible gateway.

 

[Gary K]

I posted a link from Bible gateway.

Yeah but the words still existed in your mind, You can deny it till the cows come home but that doesn't change what is true.

 

[Leaf473]

Yeah but the words still existed in your mind, You can deny it till the cows come home but that doesn't change what is true.

Of course they exist in my mind. That's different from God writing his law on my heart/mind.

Peace be with you, my brother!

 

[Gary K]

Of course they exist in my mind. That's different from God writing his law on my heart/mind.

Peace be with you, my brother!

How is it different? Your mind is the seat of who you are. No getting around it. You can claim anything you want, but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

 

[HIM]

A big Amen to that! And what is placed on our hearts? The principles found in the law, or the actual letters of those laws?

God says His Law, His Word not principles. That is of your making. Let us stick with what He says not leaf. Lest we make the same mistake that they made in Eden.

God says His Law is in the mind and mouth also. Jesus said out of the mouth comes the issues of the heart. Science says we have a second brain, mind in the heart. So depending on where one is from and who they are would depend on how they would Postulate the working of the Spirit in them. We work in tandem with God but He is the source and power. We allow what we hear and accept. It is up to us what we do and a little leaven can leaven the whole in so much that we do not hear and accept the working of Him but in part if at all.

 

[Leaf473]

How is it different? Your mind is the seat of who you are. No getting around it. You can claim anything you want, but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

I agree that my mind is the seat of who I am.

That's different than saying all of the words in my mind were written there by God.

For example, I have the theme from Gilligan's Island in my mind. It doesn't mean those words were written there by God

 

[Leaf473]

God says His Law, His Word not principles. That is of your making. Let us stick with what He says not leaf. Lest we make the same mistake that they made in Eden.

God says His Law is in the mind and mouth also. Jesus said out of the mouth comes the issues of the heart. Science says we have a second brain, mind in the heart. So depending on where one is from and who they are would depend on how they would Postulate the working of the Spirit in them. We work in tandem with God but He is the source and power. We allow what we hear and accept. It is up to us what we do and a little leaven can leaven the whole in so much that we do not hear and accept the working of Him but in part if at all.

God's words are written on your heart, like, actual letters? Not principles, but particular words?

If so, then I ask you the same kind of questions I asked @Gary K:
What language are the words in? Are they translated into English?

 

[Gary K]

I agree that my mind is the seat of who I am.

That's different than saying all of the words in my mind were written there by God.

For example, I have the theme from Gilligan's Island in my mind. It doesn't mean those words were written there by God

Where did you get the idea that I think everything in our minds was put there by God? In my opinion that's the silliest assertion I've ever seen you post. God places His principles in our minds through His word if we allow Him .

 

[Leaf473]

Where did you get the idea that I think everything in our minds was put there by God?

From this earlier post

Yeah but the words still existed in your mind, You can deny it till the cows come home but that doesn't change what is true.

If words existing in our minds doesn't proof that God put them there, then we're back to this, I believe

Those letters are not what is written on my heart

In my opinion that's the silliest assertion I've ever seen you post. God places His principles in our minds through His word if we allow Him .