Jason Kessler files for an "anniversary" rally in Charlottesville

[Aryeh Jay]

I'm going to protest on the public road in front of your house, so you can't stop me. And since I filed a permit, I must be allowed to protest. It's in the Constitution; you can't deny me my individual rights!
Ringo

Go ahead; it is a busy 4 lane road though. I hope you like 80s music.

 

[Ringo84]

Do you actually think protesters get permits allowing them to run people over with cars?

Of course not. But if that happens while I'm here, it's totally fine for me to celebrate it a year later with another protest. Nobody can stop me because I'm permitted.
Ringo

 

[Phil 1:21]

Of course not. But if that happens while I'm here, it's totally fine for me to celebrate it a year later with another protest. Nobody can stop me because I'm permitted.
Ringo

That is your right, and I support it.

 

[Desk trauma]

So a single rabble-rouser can outweigh the wishes of an entire city?

Yes. The Phelps clan comes to mind.

Good to know the Supreme Court is on the side of people in Charlottesville.
Ringo

What case are you referring to?

 

[Ringo84]

That is your right, and I support it.

Oh good! I'll bring my own heavily armed security force to protect my protestors. We may light up the night with nighttime flashlight rallies. If anyone gets in our way, we may run them over in our car. But it's totally fine, correct? It's my right to protest no matter what. At 0300 in the morning on a weekday, we'll have speakers come to denounce Phil 1:21 and his family, but that'll be OK because - after all, we're permitted, right?
Ringo

 

[Desk trauma]

Oh good! I'll bring my own heavily armed security force to protect my protestors. We may light up the night with nighttime flashlight rallies. If anyone gets in our way, we may run them over in our car. But it's totally fine, correct? It's my right to protest no matter what.
Ringo

You seem to keep confusing the right to protest with the right to commit vehicular manslaughter.

 

[grasping the after wind]

In this case the application for a permit should be rejected as public safety would be an issue. The right to free speech is not being abridged by refusing to accommodate the speaker's choice of venue. No one is censoring the speaker.

 

[Ringo84]

You seem to keep confusing the right to protest with the right to commit vehicular manslaughter.

Hey, that was back in August. But we want to file to protest in front of Phil 1:21's house again on the first anniversary next year. It's totally fine if our previous protest was violent but we want to do it again, correct?
Ringo

 

[Phil 1:21]

You seem to keep confusing the right to protest with the right to commit vehicular manslaughter.

Yeah, it's a bit perplexing that he seems to conflate free speech with committing murder.

 

[Ringo84]

No, I'm saying that vehicular manslaughter at my previous rally shouldn't matter. We should be allowed to protest again on the same spot next year because we're permitted. Nobody has a right to tell us no because it's our Constitutional right to protest, and that can't ever be abridged.
Ringo

 

[Desk trauma]

Hey, that was back in August. But we want to file to protest in front of Phil 1:21's house again on the first anniversary next year. It's totally fine if our previous protest was violent but we want to do it again, correct?
Ringo

I'm at a loss as to why you're so anxious to play into these morons hands. The best thing that can be done is allow them out in public to demonstrate how odious the majority of the populous finds their views and to show just how few of them there are.

 

[Phil 1:21]

No, I'm saying that vehicular manslaughter at my previous rally shouldn't matter.

No, that's not what you said. Here's are your quotes...

OK. I'm going to come to your house and protest in front of it. Maybe I'll run one of your family members over with my car while I'm there.

...and...

If anyone gets in our way, we may run them over in our car. But it's totally fine, correct? It's my right to protest no matter what.

 

[Ringo84]

I'm at a loss as to why you're so anxious to play into these morons hands. The best thing that can be done is allow them out in public to demonstrate how odious the majority of the populous finds their views and to show just how few of them there are.

B-but it worked so well last time! I'm sure if I'm allowed to protest in front of your house again next year, nothing will happen because I'm such a good guy. Past is never prologue in situations like this, right?

No, that's not what you said. Here's your quote...

Yeah...someone in the rally was violent last year. But they were just a bad apple. How can we possibly believe that if they're given the right to protest again, nothing will happen?
Ringo

 

[Desk trauma]

B-but it worked so well last time!

Do you think that the public image of white nationalism/supremacy improved after the last rally?

 

[Ringo84]

Do you think that the public image of white nationalism/supremacy improved after the last rally?

Oh sure. I mean...the president said they were great people, right?
Ringo

 

[Desk trauma]

Oh sure. I mean...the president said they were great people, right?
Ringo

Do you think they gained in popularity nationally? Do you think that people who disagreed with them prior to their last gathering changed their minds?

 

[Desk trauma]

To quote a favorite bit of a movie speech:

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, 'You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.'

 

[Ringo84]

Do you think they gained in popularity nationally? Do you think that people who disagreed with them prior to their last gathering changed their minds?

I for one definitely judge whether or not a protest should be permitted based on how popular its members are after protesting.
Ringo

 

[Desk trauma]

I for one definitely judge whether or not a protest should be permitted based on how popular its members are after protesting.
Ringo

Who would you allow to use their first amendment rights?

 

[Phil 1:21]

I for one definitely judge whether or not a protest should be permitted based on how popular its members are after protesting.
Ringo

Sure, because what could possibly go wrong with letting one group of people deprive another group of their constitutional rights?