Japanese question.

[Sammy-San]

If you believe it's possible to Romanise Japanese.



Well, that's very helpful, because it tells me that the song is the Japanese version of "What A Beautiful Name" by Hillsong.

The English lyrics are "My sin was great, Your love was greater," so the Japanese lyrics must mean something similar. In particular, "ai" must be 愛, love (in fact, the line is 私の罪も全部 包んだ 愛により -- see What A Beautiful Name). It's possible that the verb tsutsunda may refer to Christ's love covering our sins.

You can romanize hebrew, arabic, russian-vietnamese and fillipino are already romanized.

 

[Radagast]

You can romanize hebrew, arabic, russian-vietnamese and fillipino are already romanized.

What I meant was that the romanisation loses too much information.

Witness the fact that you had accidentally misidentified the verb tsutsunda, which is actually this (but I only discovered that when I found the kanji): Tanoshii Japanese

Chinese languages are worse: to make a point, someone once wrote a Mandarin poem that consists entirely of the syllable "shi" repeated: Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den - Wikipedia

 

[Radagast]

She looks white-ish.

As with many Eurasian people, she looks more or less Japanese depending on the camera angle.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

As with many Eurasian people, she looks more or less Japanese depending on the camera angle.

Looks pretty white there.

 

[Sammy-San]

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Looks pretty white there.

my aunt in italy (not biological) looks vaguely oriental. There is overlap between features of europeans and asians.

 

[Sammy-San]

What I meant was that the romanisation loses too much information.

Witness the fact that you had accidentally misidentified the verb tsutsunda, which is actually this (but I only discovered that when I found the kanji): Tanoshii Japanese

Chinese languages are worse: to make a point, someone once wrote a Mandarin poem that consists entirely of the syllable "shi" repeated: Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den - Wikipedia

she said tsutsunda-shes not even doing the language properly.

 

[Radagast]

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Looks pretty white there.

True; but she looks a lot more Japanese in other photos.

 

[Sammy-San]

True; but she looks a lot more Japanese in other photos.

People say Japanese look vaguely European. one of my uncles looks very vaguely japanese.

 

[Radagast]

she said tsutsunda-shes not even doing the language properly.

(1) Don't you think it's rather arrogant to tell someone brought up speaking Japanese that you know her language better than she does?

(2) Japanese is an inflected language: 包 is "tsutsu" and んだ is "nda" (the past indicative plain ending).

You need to (1) lose that arrogance and (2) learn some grammar.

 

[Sammy-San]

(1) Don't you think it's rather arrogant to tell someone brought up speaking Japanese that you know her language better than she does?

(2) Japanese is an inflected language: 包 is "tsutsu" and んだ is "nda" (the past indicative plain ending).

You need to (1) lose that arrogance and (2) learn some grammar.

The word isn't even tsutsunda from what you said.

 

[Sammy-San]

(1) Don't you think it's rather arrogant to tell someone brought up speaking Japanese that you know her language better than she does?

(2) Japanese is an inflected language: 包 is "tsutsu" and んだ is "nda" (the past indicative ending).

You need to (1) lose that arrogance and (2) learn some grammar.

Im not being a language fraud. I've had people tell me i spoke German (when they just lived on a military base there)

 

[Sammy-San]

(1) Don't you think it's rather arrogant to tell someone brought up speaking Japanese that you know her language better than she does?

(2) Japanese is an inflected language: 包 is "tsutsu" and んだ is "nda" (the past indicative plain ending).

You need to (1) lose that arrogance and (2) learn some grammar.

Kurumu means cover, not tsutsunda. Tanoshii Japanese

 

[Radagast]

The word isn't even tsutsunda from what you said.

No, I said that it was tsutsunda. And it is.

Kurumu means cover, not tsutsunda. Tanoshii Japanese

If I'm understanding things correctly, the kanji 包 can be pronounced either tsutsu or kuru (but of course it's tsutsu in the song). What's more, the choice of pronunciation gives slightly different meanings. However, kuru is generally written as くる. Written in kanji form as 包, tsutsu always seems to be what's intended: 包む - Wiktionary.

If you're serious about Japanese you need to learn at least hiragana. And you need to abandon the idea of any one-to-one correspondence between words in different languages.

 

[Sammy-San]

No, I said that it was tsutsunda. And it is.



If I'm understanding things correctly, the kanji 包 can be pronounced either tsutsu or kuru (but of course it's tsutsu in the song). What's more, the choice of pronunciation gives slightly different meanings. However, kuru is generally written as くる. Written in kanji form as 包, tsutsu always seems to be what's intended: 包む - Wiktionary.

If you're serious about Japanese you need to learn at least hiragana. And you need to abandon the idea of any one-to-one correspondence between words in different languages.

so she didnt say tsutsunda as in one word?

 

[Radagast]

so she didnt say tsutsunda as in one word?

She did. But like I said, that splits into verb root (包 = tsutsu) and verb ending (んだ = nda). Much like the English word "singing" is "sing" + "ing."

 

[Sammy-San]

No, I said that it was tsutsunda. And it is.



If I'm understanding things correctly, the kanji 包 can be pronounced either tsutsu or kuru (but of course it's tsutsu in the song). What's more, the choice of pronunciation gives slightly different meanings. However, kuru is generally written as くる. Written in kanji form as 包, tsutsu always seems to be what's intended: 包む - Wiktionary.

If you're serious about Japanese you need to learn at least hiragana. And you need to abandon the idea of any one-to-one correspondence between words in different languages.

So the same is true with romanizations of other languages?

 

[Sammy-San]

She did. But like I said, that splits into verb root (包 = tsutsu) and verb ending (んだ = nda). Much like the English word "singing" is "sing" + "ing."

not the same as regular "tsutsunda"?

 

[Radagast]

So the same is true with romanizations of other languages?

Your question doesn't relate to what you quoted.

Japanese is in many ways unique, because kanji was imported from Chinese languages, which are totally unrelated.

Many kanji have two utterly different pronunciations, a "Japanese-style" one and a "Chinese-style" one. Sometimes there are two different "Japanese-style" ones (which I think may be the case with 包). Either way, this generally this provides a pair of words with related meanings.

 

[Radagast]

not the same as regular "tsutsunda"?

I'm not aware of any other "tsutsunda" in Japanese.

These questions are starting to get bizarre. Are you trolling?

 

[Sammy-San]

I'm not aware of any other "tsutsunda" in Japanese.

These questions are starting to get bizarre. Are you trolling?

Meaning the word tsutsunda itself evokes a negative situation and not a covering.