Jail staff mocked a sick man as he begged for help, video shows. Days later, he was dead.

[SummerMadness]

Jail staff mocked a sick man as he begged for help, video shows. Days later, he was dead.

From an isolation cell in the Ottawa County Jail, Terral Ellis begged for someone to help him.

He could not feel his legs and he could not breathe, the 26-year-old told jail staff and the on-site nurse at the Miami, Okla., facility. It felt, he said, like his back was broken and he was bleeding internally.

“I think I’m dying,” he said just after 10 a.m. on Oct. 22, 2015.

Staff mocked him, laughed at a joke about the “boy who cried wolf,” and ignored him as he moaned. When nurse Theresa Horn arrived later that morning, she did not help either — instead threatening to chain Ellis to the ground if he continued to complain.

When you treat people like animals simply because they are in jail, this is an unsurprising outcome. One must think of all the people that have been jailed or imprisoned and ask if they are all horrible people worthy of being ignored when they are sick or in pain.

 

[Tone]

Sick people.

A day of reckoning is coming very swiftly.

 

[mkgal1]

One must think of all the people that have been jailed or imprisoned and ask if they are all horrible people worthy of being ignored when they are sick or in pain.

NO ONE is "worthy" of being neglected like that. This demonstrates who the horrible people really are in this scenario.

 

[Tone]

You guys have been saying that for a couple of centuries now. Talking about "crying wolf".

I interpret your posts here on this thread as a cry for help.

There is help in Yahshua ha Mashiach Who conquered hell and death, I ask Abba Yah to Breathe into your life and Speak love, joy, and peace therein. Amen

 

[public hermit]

His cell mate treated him with more humanity than the jailors.

 

[mkgal1]

His cell mate treated him with more humanity than the jailors.

.....and then they placed him in isolation - with NO ONE to advocate for him or even get him a drink of water. That is so cruel.

 

[public hermit]

.....and then they placed him in isolation - with NO ONE to advocate for him or even get him a drink of water. That is so cruel.

It is. We need a serious overhaul of our penal system. I don't know if this was a private institution, but that's the first thing that needs to change. I wish I had more answers, but treating people like animals (less than animals?) is not it.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Wouldn't this be pretty much a done deal on the side of the inmate when it gets to court?

 

[durangodawood]

Wouldn't this be pretty much a done deal on the side of the inmate when it gets to court?

The court will huff and puff but they cant bring him back to life.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Sounds like he was taken away and beaten for arguing with the staff, resulting in untreated serious injuries that eventually led to his death. If true, he was murdered by his jailors.

 

[Nithavela]

It is. We need a serious overhaul of our penal system. I don't know if this was a private institution, but that's the first thing that needs to change. I wish I had more answers, but treating people like animals (less than animals?) is not it.

The answers are already being implemented in many countries. They're not very usefull for continuing the american tradition of slave labour though.

 

[Hank77]

I have to pay a buck to see it? And on top of that, it's TWP? Naa

Here's a local news site. This isn't the first case in the Tulsa area where this has happened. The family of that case, the death in 2011, won 10.5 million.
Dying Ottawa County Jail inmate told to 'quit faking,' lawsuit claims

 

[Hank77]

Sounds like he was taken away and beaten for arguing with the staff, resulting in untreated serious injuries that eventually led to his death. If true, he was murdered by his jailors.

He died from sepsis and pneumonia according to the Medical Examiner.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The court will huff and puff but they cant bring him back to life.

Did you ever expect them to?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The court will huff and puff but they cant bring him back to life.

The courts are part of the criminal justice system.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Here's a local news site. This isn't the first case in the Tulsa area where this has happened. The family of that case, the death in 2011, won 10.5 million.
Dying Ottawa County Jail inmate told to 'quit faking,' lawsuit claims

Thanks. I did find it on youtube, and that was a hefty pay out, FWIW.

All I can figure is these prison guards are either not to bright, or they figure the training or implementing better paid, thus better guards is cheaper than paying the lawsuits, which is terrible. People just want their people back alive. If that were the case, the judges need to start doubling to payouts if possible, and make it too expensive to go that route.

Wondering what role the first EMS will play in this...what was their finding?

Hope Nurse horn loses her job there as well as her nurses license...forever.

 

[SimplyMe]

Thanks. I did find it on youtube, and that was a hefty pay out, FWIW.

All I can figure is these prison guards are either not to bright, or they figure the training or implementing better paid, thus better guards is cheaper than paying the lawsuits, which is terrible. People just want their people back alive. If that were the case, the judges need to start doubling to payouts if possible, and make it too expensive to go that route.

Wondering what role the first EMS will play in this...what was their finding?

Hope Nurse horn loses her job there as well as her nurses license...forever.

From the Tulsa World article, it sounds as if the first EMS, though called, never actually was taken to the prisoner -- they were just told he was faking and were told to leave. I agree with the Nurse, she should lose her job and at least a suspension of her nurse's license.

 

[Kenny'sID]

From the Tulsa World article, it sounds as if the first EMS, though called, never actually was taken to the prisoner -- they were just told he was faking and were told to leave. I agree with the Nurse, she should lose her job and at least a suspension of her nurse's license.

That would be bad, real bad.

I did have a bit of trouble keeping up with the video due to funky settings caused by my high contrast theme, but it seems there was something about them taking him to general population/some big empty room to do their thing, but no mention of the out come. And again, that is if I got it right.

Yep, that nurse, bet she wasn't feeling real good about here future at the moment. We play with fire long enough (treat people that way) and we get burned.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[FireDragon76]

The staff should be punished for their callous disregard for human life.