talmidim said:
Once more, you cover the subject well. I am not well versed enough in these particular prophecies to offer all that much. You said: There are a couple of things that are worthy of comment.Two witnesses are required under the law to substantiate a transgression of Torah. In this verse "they will prophecy" can mean that they will simply be quoting scripture, reminding G-d of His word as it relates to the condition of the world. The commission of the saints is to witness to Yeshua (pray). I tend to think that in Revelation, the two witnesses are witnessing to the Throne against the evil one and ALL of his supporters. They are in fact bringing charges against the world. The list of offences are so lengthy that it will take two and a half YEARS to properly bring them all. That is why they are protected until their commission is complete. Then, when they are murdered, they are allowed the same defense before the Throne as Yeshua. They will be found righteous and restored to life; death having no power over the true children of the Father.
It is like Elijah before the Baal priests, and Moses before the Pharoah, all the other gods powers and lies are laid before the people for what charlatans they really are.
Revelation 11:5 And
if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and
if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.1 6 These
have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy2: and
have power over waters to turn them to blood3, and
to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will4. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
The
no rain during the days of their prophecy is made famous by the words of Moses as he looked at the promised land and later by work of Elijah.
For Moses read Deut chapter 11....the whole chapter is full of prophectic meaning very meaningful for today. If we were to start a message campaign to Sharon....and stress to him the importance of verses 22-25, for him to put the words of God before him, because today's decisions, will predict tomorrows outcome.
16 Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them; 17 And then the LORD's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you. 18
Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. 19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates: 21 That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth. 22 For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him; 23 Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves. 24 Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be. 25
There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the LORD your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you. 26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; 27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: 28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
Then read 1 Kings chapter 8 when Solomon prayed....
1 Kings 8:1 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of Israel, unto king Solomon in Jerusalem, that they might bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion. 2 And all the men of Israel assembled themselves unto king Solomon
at the feast in the month Ethanim, which is the seventh month. ..... 10 And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD, ....12 Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness. ...22And Solomon stood before the altar of the LORD in the presence of all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven: 23 And he said, LORD God of Israel, there is no God like thee, in heaven above, or on earth beneath, who keepest covenant and mercy with thy servants that walk before thee with all their heart: ....35
When heaven is shut up, and
there is no rain, because they have sinned against thee; if they pray toward this place, and confess thy name, and turn from their sin, when thou afflictest them: 36 Then hear thou in heaven, and forgive the sin of thy servants, and of thy people Israel, that thou teach them the good way wherein they should walk, and give rain upon thy land, which thou hast given to thy people for an inheritance. 37 If there be in the land famine, if there be pestilence, blasting, mildew, locust, or if there be caterpiller; if their enemy besiege them in the land of their cities; whatsoever plague, whatsoever sickness there be; 38 What prayer and supplication soever be made by any man, or by all thy people Israel, which shall know every man the plague of his own heart, and spread forth his hands toward this house: 39 Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men
40 That they may fear thee all the days that they live in the land which thou gavest unto our fathers. 41
Moreover concerning a stranger, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name's sake; 42 (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm
when he shall come and pray toward this house; 43 Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for:
that all people of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people Israel; and that they may know that this house, which I have builded, is called by thy name.
2 Chronicles 7:12 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and
have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice. 13
If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Then we have a micro fulfillment with Elijah...
1 Kings 17:1 And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, As the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand,
there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word.
Think of it this way, Isaiah and Yeshua both talked about laboring in the vineyard.
Isaiah 5:5 now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and
it shall be trodden down: 6 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns:
I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it. 7
For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and
the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
Matthew 21:33
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder,
which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
Is not the Ezekiel vision of the temple, the design that the temple planners and builders are going to use for the next temple? Do we now in this generation consider ourselves closer to being able to live to 100 years old?
Jeremiah 3:2 Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and
thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness. 3
Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a harlot's forehead,
thou refusedst to be ashamed.
Zechariah 14:17 And it shall be, that
whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be
no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have
no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith
the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.