Israel's future and Pat: Your view

[ethereous]

Except for very few lines U.S. appears to fit the definition. Odd.

Thanks,
Ed

Others fit Britain.

Just remember the word nation generally refers to a people.

It rather seems all you have done is promote British Israelism, a half baked heresy from the 19th century. No one has ever taken it seriously.

In God's eyes the truth is all that matters. Those that believe will know the truth.

 

[GraceInHim]

[SIZE=-1]"'I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name's sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst, and the nations will know that I am the Eternal Lord,' says the Eternal Lord God, 'when I am set apart in you before their eyes. For I will sprinkle clean water upon you and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you. I will remove the heart of stone out of your flesh and I will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and I will cause you to begin to walk in My statutes, and you will begin to keep My judgments and will do them. Then you will live in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you will be My people, and I will be your God'"[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] (Ezek. 36:22-27). [/SIZE]

 

[ethereous]

[SIZE=-1]"'I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name's sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst, and the nations will know that I am the Eternal Lord,' says the Eternal Lord God, 'when I am set apart in you before their eyes. For I will sprinkle clean water upon you and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you. I will remove the heart of stone out of your flesh and I will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and I will cause you to begin to walk in My statutes, and you will begin to keep My judgments and will do them. Then you will live in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you will be My people, and I will be your God'"[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] (Ezek. 36:22-27). [/SIZE]

Ok... What is the exact point you are trying to make so I may address it? Generally you need to say what you want to say and then put passages to back it up. Not simply put a passage and hope someone interprets it the same way as you.

 

[GraceInHim]

Ok... What is the exact point you are trying to make so I may address it? Generally you need to say what you want to say and then put passages to back it up. Not simply put a passage and hope someone interprets it the same way as you.

it is a people. a nation.. right

 

[Gwenyfur]

The decedencts of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will inherit the kingdom as promised by G-d millenia ago...that covenant was an everlasting covenant between G-d and father Abraham...it has yet to be fulfilled....Though gentiles were grafted in

 

[Oblio]

The decedencts of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will inherit the kingdom as promised by G-d millenia ago.

Those descendents are the Church. There can be racial Jews within the Church, but it is the Christian Church that is promised the Kingdom. Jews are saved because they become Christian, not because they are of the physical seed of Abraham.

 

[ethereous]

it is a people. a nation.. right

Yes that is why they seperate countries in nations in Ezekie 36.

Here is something interesting if you take the entire Ezekiel 36 in perspective.

Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession: Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the residue of the nations, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and are an infamy of the people: Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the nations that are round about;
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the nations, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey. Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the nations: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the nations that are about you, they shall bear their shame. But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown: And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded: And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD. Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou land devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations: Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD. Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the nations any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD. Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it: And I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. And when they entered unto the nations, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations, whither they went. Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the nations, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the nations, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the nations. Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations. Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel. Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded. And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by. And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited. Then the nations that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it. Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock. As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD. Ezekiel 36:1-38

I highlighte a few words and sentences.

The words highlighted are:

nations
countries
mountains and (mountains of Israel)
Idumea

Partial sentences that are highlighted are:

"mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken"

"land of Israel"

"mountains of Israel"

"mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys"

multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the nations.

As you see God seperates the words nations and countries. Put in the words people or races in place of nations and it will fit perfectly.

Idumea is a country which he specifically lists but he also is refering to the people of Idumea (Edomites).

When he is speaking to the mountains, he is speaking to the governments (that which protects) or the governments of Israel.

The partial sentence "mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys" is saying "all the lands and those within"

 

[Gwenyfur]

Those descendents are the Church. There can be racial Jews within the Church, but it is the Christian Church that is promised the Kingdom. Jews are saved because they become Christian, not because they are of the physical seed of Abraham.

thank you for playing,

but seriously...the convenant with Israel has yet to be fulfilled, G-d doesn't not break His word, and the church is NOT Israel.

G-d is NOT a liar...His word is forever...and until the covenant is fulfilled, Israel (the decendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) remain the chosen ones of G-d.

 

[GraceInHim]

Yes that is why they seperate countries in nations in Ezekie 36.

Here is something interesting if you take the entire Ezekiel 36 in perspective.



I highlighte a few words and sentences.

The words highlighted are:

nations
countries
mountains and (mountains of Israel)
Idumea

Partial sentences that are highlighted are:

"mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken"

"land of Israel"

"mountains of Israel"

"mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys"

multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the nations.

As you see God seperates the words nations and countries. Put in the words people or races in place of nations and it will fit perfectly.

Idumea is a country which he specifically lists but he also is refering to the people of Idumea (Edomites).

When he is speaking to the mountains, he is speaking to the governments (that which protects) or the governments of Israel.

The partial sentence "mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys" is saying "all the lands and those within"

is not one of Lot's daughter who got pregnant by him became Edom? which is not Israel - the promised

 

[Maximus]

thank you for playing,

but seriously...the convenant with Israel has yet to be fulfilled, G-d doesn't not break His word, and the church is NOT Israel.

G-d is NOT a liar...His word is forever...and until the covenant is fulfilled, Israel (the decendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) remain the chosen ones of G-d.

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Who are the "children of the promise"?

For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

St. Paul wrote that to the Galatians, who were not Jews but converts to Christianity, descendants of Celtic tribes that had invaded Asia Minor and settled there centuries earlier.

God doesn't break His word, but the way the Dispensationalists and Messianics explain His word is just plain wrong.

 

[GraceInHim]

[/b]

Who are the "children of the promise"?




St. Paul wrote that to the Galatians, who were not Jews but converts to Christianity, descendants of Celtic tribes that had invaded Asia Minor and settled there centuries earlier.

God doesn't break His word, but the way the Dispensationalists and Messianics explain His word is just plain wrong.

and I read through Church History whom some, I believe were just plain wrong.. that is why Jesus will come to restore all things to love and peace amoung all who love and worship God truly.. the fullness of the Gentiles are still to come and I would not knock off a nation when there are Christians living there who are constantly bombed from Ishmaelites.. God Forgive them

 

[KEPLER]

becuz the Prophets wrote about this.. placed many verses for this..

And I thinkMel's point is that Jews "returing" to Israel and then leaving again because their fellow Jews were such snobs (to this very day, Russian Jews are treated horribly by the Israelis, who make them live in ghettos)...well, this hardly looks like a REAL fulfillment of prophecy.....

K

 

[KEPLER]

If that view were accurate it means literally 144,000 Jewish male virigins in heaven, according to Revelation. So people like St. Peter (not a virgin) the Mother of God Mary (not a man) and many other chief figures in Christianity (not Jews) will not be heaven. Maybe it's time to stop reading an account of a vision in the form of a dream literally. It's a good idea.

Oooooooo, those pesky biblical facts....

 

[KEPLER]

Those descendents are the Church. There can be racial Jews within the Church, but it is the Christian Church that is promised the Kingdom. Jews are saved because they become Christian, not because they are of the physical seed of Abraham.

Halleljuah, and Amen! Preach on, Brother!

Lo! I speak unto all! This is a man who knoweth the Words of God, and speaketh them correctly!

Heh.

 

[KEPLER]

[/b]

Who are the "children of the promise"?




St. Paul wrote that to the Galatians, who were not Jews but converts to Christianity, descendants of Celtic tribes that had invaded Asia Minor and settled there centuries earlier.

God doesn't break His word, but the way the Dispensationalists and Messianics explain His word is just plain wrong.

He shoots...HE SCORES!!!!!
Pesky, pesky, pesky, biblical facts.

Well done, Max.

 

[Melethiel]

And I thinkMel's point is that Jews "returing" to Israel and then leaving again because their fellow Jews were such snobs (to this very day, Russian Jews are treated horribly by the Israelis, who make them live in ghettos)...well, this hardly looks like a REAL fulfillment of prophecy.....

K

Exactly. Thank you.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Deborah was unique among the women, and men, of Bible History in that she was prophetess, a judge and a military leader all in one - a powerful triple combination of authority and responsibility held by only two other Israelites, Moses and Samuel.
Dated at approximately 1200 B.C., Deborah served as a judge at "the palm tree of Deborah" in southern Ephraim between Ramah and Bethel, thereby possibly making her of the tribe of Ephraim, as was Joshua earlier. She was referred to as the "mother of Israel" because of her leadership in the battle against Canaanite oppression.

Victory Over Sisera

"After Ehud died, the Israelites once again did evil in the eyes of The Lord. So The Lord sold them into the hands of Jabin, a king of Canaan, who reigned in Hazor. The commander of his army was Sisera, who lived in Harosheth Haggoyim. Because he had nine hundred iron chariots and had cruelly oppressed the Israelites for twenty years, they cried to The Lord for help."

"Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was leading [traditionally judging] Israel at that time. She held court under the Palm of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim, and the Israelites came to her to have their disputes decided. She sent for Barak son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali and said to him, "The Lord, the God of Israel, commands you: 'Go, take with you ten thousand men of Naphtali and Zebulun and lead the way to Mount Tabor. I will lure Sisera, the commander of Jabin's army, with his chariots and his troops to the Kishon River and give him into your hands.'"

"Barak said to her, "If you go with me, I will go; but if you don't go with me, I won't go."

"Very well," Deborah said, "I will go with you. But because of the way you are going about this, the honor will not be yours, for The Lord will hand Sisera over to a woman." So Deborah went with Barak to Kedesh, where he summoned Zebulun and Naphtali. Ten thousand men followed him, and Deborah also went with him."

"Now Heber the Kenite had left the other Kenites, the descendants of Hobab, Moses' brother-in-law, and pitched his tent by the great tree in Zaanannim near Kedesh."

"When they told Sisera that Barak son of Abinoam had gone up to Mount Tabor, Sisera gathered together his nine hundred iron chariots and all the men with him, from Harosheth Haggoyim to the Kishon River."

"Then Deborah said to Barak, "Go! This is the day The Lord has given Sisera into your hands. Has not The Lord gone ahead of you?" So Barak went down Mount Tabor, followed by ten thousand men. At Barak's advance, The Lord routed Sisera and all his chariots and army by the sword, and Sisera abandoned his chariot and fled on foot. But Barak pursued the chariots and army as far as Harosheth Haggoyim. All the troops of Sisera fell by the sword; not a man was left." (Judges 4:1-16 NIV)

Visionary,

For sure. This comes to my mind often.
And also, I bet they all were top notch "Ladies" of The Lord as well to their families.

Love Covers,
Connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

She was referred to as the "mother of Israel" because of her leadership in the battle against Canaanite oppression.

Visionary,

You just named what she (my minister lady) ministers.
God first taugh Milton this same message and Joyce has the double anointing that was passed on to her, by the Grace of God.

The whole Gospel is Jesus teaching us how to, 'in our hearts - the Cup must be cleasned first', enter the Promised Land.

This lady is such a blessings - never flatters me, but only teaches truth. This same teaching has caused an Arab man to still be alive this day - my son's father who kidnapped my son from me long ago - in my blog:

In His Love,
Connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Is this what the lady Minister is teaching or this is what you personally understand the text to mean?


I do not think I ever heard her speak.
Yet I know of her name.
She is one of the "Faith Movement" teachers that believe that it was not finished at the cross, but that he also went to hell to suffer for us.

There are other things also concerning salvation itself.

It appears that these are the women that appeal to your spiritual needs.

So, No.
I will not accept the prayer that you offered - "FATHER YOU BLESSED ME THROUGH THIS WOMEN." ...
since you probably mean a certain type of women.


God told her that she is "a eunich of God unto the Body"? And people believe her? Apparently so.
Back to Meyers, since you appear to be edified by a certain "type" of preaching.
According to CRI ... " Moreover, in her 1991 booklet, Meyer asserts that salvation is impossible without believing Jesus suffered in hell as the believer’s substitute. Meyer writes, “There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell".

Then she removed word "hell" in the 1996 edition obviously after people began complaining.

It appears that Joyce Meyers appears to say whatever she want and she attributes her "wants" and promptings to God.



Please do not pray for me publically, Connie.
It might turn out for the worst for either of us.


Connie, I told you before that people did not hurt me and your evaluation is incorrect.
Yet you refuse the believe me.
You believe your own perception.
Since I know what is going on in my life I stated that your perception is not your gift from God.
In your imagination (that's all I can call it now) you develop that I willingly refuse to acknowledge that your perception concerning me is correct.

Connie, you should not deceive yourself in such a fashion.


Connie what I'm doing now is what I said I would not know how to answer in the previous post.
Then you openly were praying for me invoking the Father's name. I felt quite uncomfortable about this, stated this to you, yet did not know what to do.

Throughout this post you also stated and underlined that "The Lord will just have to communicate this to you."

Connie, He did.

Please, do not pray for me in such a fashion.

Thanks,
Ed

Ed,

I wrote this post before reading your post entry in my guest book.
You might have recently been made aware of some things (having read your entry) but I'll still keep this post as is, just let it more work on you I suppose. And I hope God in us both has bridge a huge gap between us today!!!

TO GOD BE THE GLORY AND WE BEING BROUGHT TOGETHER MORE THROUGH HIS LOVE.

HIS LOVE WILL ALWAYS BRING A DEATH TO OUR OWN FLESH NATURE IF WE OPEN THAT KNOCKED ON CHURCH-HOUSE-DOOR OF HIS - IT WILL ALWAYS BRING FORTH A DEATH UNTO LIFE!!!

THAT'S WHY I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO GLORY IN THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST!!!--BY MY CHURCH. AND TO ME THEY HAVE BEEN LIKE NO OTHER BODY OF BELIEVERS IN MY LIFE!!!!
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_________________
_________________
Ed,

You sound like a very intellegent man and I do respect you, I want you to know this.

And "Ok" I will not pub. prayers for you on this forum for love's sake that we not be divided in Christ as you have asked. I can respect this request of yours.

________
But until your ready to show the real "Ed" with me, I will be waiting. (From having read your guest book entry I'll add this)------->,...so now if you've had a change of heart then we can talk and so disregard this.
________


As I have judgments that God is showing me I have learned just a little of how to die to this AWEFUL DISEASE - even when in forums like this - I had to get my teeth kicked in by The Lord a bit until I acknowledged my own strivings about words of no effect and out of Love for God and others.


THERE IS NO------->

HAMMER IN MY HAND:
NONE THAT I CAN DETECT,...

Although, I use to be a 'tree cutter' God showed me this one time as I was driving my hair looking out the window and calculating how I could cut my neighbors back-yard tree down without it hitting the house. And then God said, "You are a tree Cutter". I knew this Old Testament language and I heard this REPROOF VERY CLEARLY. So there I was on my knees and heart again in need of by Him. I was still, though I had grown in much love in dying more of my flesh nature, lacking and God still had 'somewhat' against me - and so this journey have never ended yet. "Father cut out of my heart everything that cuts and tears" I prayed. Oh by the way one of the Nations on the Promised Land that were to be removed was the "Hivite" Nation Josuah made a league with them without Asking The Lord and he made them 'tree cutters and drawers of water.' He missed it with making a league with them but he didn't miss it in naming their roles and it's not noble rolls in the Spirit it's actually what they are doing in the midst of us if we don't separate them from our selves - from our hearts. Yes, I learned all of this through God's Word by the Green's Ministry "Be Fruitful and Multiply" back in the days when I was so hurt. So it's easy to see hurt in others - though I don't see how it all happened with others.

Anyway~~~

Ed, You have had many judgments and ill comments on this forum (BUT MAYBE IN GOD'S SPECIAL WAY NOW THINGS WILL CHANGE) - yes they have been seen - now I don't condemn you for this -in telling you- but it is seen. When we so act criticle towards others in this manner, it's because we have been hurt by others. You have heard this in the Word of God regarding 'lusts' which wage war in us towards others because we are still following the demonic in some places in our hearts and it just spills over to others even in forums like this. Re-read your own version 2 Tim. 2:12 again and ASK GOD if it's really saying that THEY SHOULD CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS - it doesn't even hint at it, friend. So, when you think it does - it's only being your own mirror which is pointing fingers to the believing Jew's. Or where ever else we seem to point to in unkind manners.

You say you have not been hurt by any - in so many words,....Ed we all have hurts. It's just come down to this with you even in this forum,...or we don't have any more to say to one another.

This does need to be said for what it's worth:
If God made this already known to you then disregard or allow it to more administer to you: GOD IS LOVE ED:
Again, your hurts are attacking the Messianic Jew's who, in your understanding, SHOULD call themseleves Christian's. This is a miss use of The Love of God.

MESSIANICS don't have to and The Word of God does not tell them that they should. Now, I don't get too much on KJV verse English versions but I would recommend the KJV. This might help you to see that God is not ever putting BONDAGE ON US (MESSIANICS SHOULD CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS) but rather liberating us into Christ' Image. As I have said, it's CHRIST PLUS NOTHING ELSE. THE WHOLE LAW IS TO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,.....but this takes A DEATH TO OUR FLESH NATURE WHICH IS RIGHT NOW STILL LIKE SATAN.

If you can't see Christ in them, then 1. PRAY and get close enough to find out what their woe's are and 2. carry their burdens with them.

THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD CONCERNING ALL HIS CHILDREN.

So, if we can, AGAIN, restart, with our original conv. that would be good. So, is it in you to be God's Priest on matters where it comes to God and your neighbor's? If yes, then we must show it and break not God's Patterns.

As for Joyce Meyer who is on tv,....she teaching about dying to the flesh nature as well....but not as Strong as Milton or Joyce does,.....but she is A BLESSING when I do happen to see her on tv. You will be blessed by Meyer's as well, if you listen. Just wade through, any messes - you believe, and let God talk to your heart through her of what is 'good' and 'pure'. If not, all of us would have to jump off the planet to get 100% RIGHT ON PREACHING AND TEACHING AND EVEN PROPHECYING. So, just wade through the water in stuff, give it to God and let God 'kill' your flesh nature of anger, slander, unforgiveness, fault finding and such. As I have to too in my own heart.


If you are curious of what my lady minister--Joyce Green teaches or Milton Green I will be glad to mail you a tape set of 2. Only love attached, no strings. They read from the Old and New Testament - the Whole Counsil of God in their teachings. So as Milton use to say, "You don't receive anything from me until God confirms it in your heart through His Word in context and through Spirit ,...so build you a shelf!!" Take care, Ed.

Now once again,.....if God HAS SHOWN you what is being said to you (hey I'm learning too from what is being shared to you as well) then allow it to be another act of Grace unto You through Him.


I know, what I am ministering, is not all gotten over-night to be off and running with so easily - for God MUST COMMUNICATE IT or "things done in the name of God will only breed worms." my Joyce has said before as well. She's right,.....and I have gotten my teeth kicked in on forums before no listening to God's Voice and not being sensitive to His Leading. I still feel those Holy-beatings. I PRAY THEY NEVER STOP CORRECTING ME AS WELL!!!

Ed, things have changed don't even bother answering this post,....we can start fresh!!

Ps. How is God's way special in talking to you, where you said (in my guest book) that I am doing a good job, eh? ~scratching head~

And I am more humbled by your kind words, thank YOU Ed.


In The Fear of The Lord,
Connie

 

[GraceInHim]

And I thinkMel's point is that Jews "returing" to Israel and then leaving again because their fellow Jews were such snobs (to this very day, Russian Jews are treated horribly by the Israelis, who make them live in ghettos)...well, this hardly looks like a REAL fulfillment of prophecy.....

K

were they all who returned from Russia? Please provide proof please.. thanks.. as I said, no man is without sin on earth.. the prophecy I provided is about Jews returning from around the world to thier homeland.. this thread is about Israel's land.. not Ishmael's.. so tell me, which prophecies were fulfilled after Jesus' resurrection? when did Ezekiel's 34 - his last words were fulfilled? Since you seem to think some were not...

thanks..