Israel's future and Pat: Your view

[Edial]

I was told on another thread if that the Apostolic Catholic Church was the only way to salvation from the same you quoted from.. finally did a lot of reading on Church History ..cannot believe the ways and true sin of the past.. may God forgive them

Marina, it appears you might be having difficulties with the New Testament.
If this is the case you are missing out on a humangous part of the Lord's revelation to the humanity/

If you have some questions concerning the NT, may I help?

Thanks,
Ed

 

[GraceInHim]

Marina, it appears you might be having difficulties with the New Testament.
If this is the case you are missing out on a humangous part of the Lord's revelation to the humanity/

If you have some questions concerning the NT, may I help?

Thanks,
Ed

excuse me.. because I do not agree with some Churches?? sorry.. I read his words daily and follow them without needing to take a wafer.. the word is my bread.. thank you

 

[ethereous]

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Who are the "children of the promise"?




St. Paul wrote that to the Galatians, who were not Jews but converts to Christianity, descendants of Celtic tribes that had invaded Asia Minor and settled there centuries earlier.

God doesn't break His word, but the way the Dispensationalists and Messianics explain His word is just plain wrong.

You are right. God doesn't break his word. He is speaking to the lost ten tribes of Israel that were temporarily forsaken by God for being untrue to him by worshipping their pagan gods. Christ was God's way of bringing them once again back into the fold and rejoining them with Judah.

There is more prophecies about the land of Israel .. so do some reading please.. the thread is very long

There are lots of prophecies regarding Israel's land and the people of Israel but not some kind of country named Israel. I pointed out earlier that Jerusalem was forsaken by God as Shiloh was.

Thus saith the Lord: If ye will not hearken to the words of My servants the prophets, whom I sent unto you, both rising up early, and sending them, but ye have not hearkened; then I will make this house like Shiloh, and will make this city a curse to all the nations of the earth." - Jeremiah 26:1-3

 

[GraceInHim]

There are lots of prophecies regarding Israel's land and the people of Israel but not some kind of country named Israel. I pointed out earlier that Jerusalem was forsaken by God as Shiloh was.

ok

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Marina,

Isn't it nice when God can tell us in moments of our days this very word: Repent from where thou has fallen and get back up.

I tell you Maria, more and more this word of Repentance is becoming a good friend to me - even when I don't see the spots but GOD'S EYES ARE UNSTAINED - but then when I DO see I come running back to the Rest of God and His Peace. IT IS GOOD TO BE REBUKED OF THE LORD if it even takes His Body to say what He has already told a heart.

Remember God sits on a throne of God each time when we repent and climb back into His Lap of Rest and Peace.

1 John 5:16
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. KJV

Gal 6:1-2
6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.KJV

So regarding the Catholics:
BE THAT HIGH PRIEST UNTO GOD: DIE TO THE FLESH AND THEN:

1. PRAY FOR THEM IN TRUTH AND IN MEEKNESS
2. THEN BEAR THEIR BURDENS

FOR 'THIS WAY' THIS IS NOT BREAKING GOD'S PATTERNS!!! IT'S THE WAY OF THE CROSS IN CHRIST JESUS!

And we shall all do well,....little lamb of God.


In High Hopes,
Connie

 

[Edial]

excuse me.. because I do not agree with some Churches?? sorry.. I read his words daily and follow them without needing to take a wafer.. the word is my bread.. thank you

I am glad you are reading the NT.
Elsewhere you mentioned that you had difficulties with the church editing (I forgot the exact term you used)some Scripture. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

There are complete Greek texts from which today's English versions are translated.

Which translation of the NTare you reading? Do you speak another language perhabs?

And the communion does not make one to follow Christ. Agreed. Applying the Bible is what following is.

Thanks,
Ed

 

[KEPLER]

Connie, I find this post somehow frustrating.
...
Thanks,
Ed

Dude ***Kepler chuckles*** you're just NOW finding it frustrating?

K

 

[GraceInHim]

I am glad you are reading the NT.
Elsewhere you mentioned that you had difficulties with the church editing (I forgot the exact term you used)some Scripture. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

wrong.. who did I say edited what?.. rt is not editing

There are complete Greek texts from which today's English versions are translated.

really... do you sell them also

Which translation of the NTare you reading? Do you speak another language perhabs?

I speak 2 languages.. how many do you speak?

And the communion does not make one to follow Christ. Agreed. Applying the Bible is what following is.

ok

Thanks,

 

[Edial]

wrong.. who did I say edited what?.. rt is not editing

What's rt?

I asked - Which translation of the NTare you reading? Do you speak another language perhabs?


I speak 2 languages.. how many do you speak?

I speak 3.
So which translation of the NT are you reading?

Thanks,
Ed

 

[GraceInHim]

What's rt?
I speak 3.
So which translation of the NT are you reading?

Thanks,
Ed

ok, you still did not answer my post when you said I stated that the Bible was edited, when I never said this.. ask a question with a question.. very good..

 

[Jesus Is Real]

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Marina,

Are you aware Marina, when ever a person would bring their sacrifice for sin, that it was the person who sinned who was to cut the throat of the animal. This is why God tells us in Romans that He leads us TO PUT TO DEATH the deeds of the flesh.

That beast is brought before the Priest, the priest holds the beast he confesses the sins over the head of the beast having heard them from the one who had sinned and then the one who had sinned cuts the throat of that beast.

We are to cut the throat of the beast - our deeds of the flesh.


THESE PICTURES WERE ISRAEL'S BABY BLOCKS
FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO COME TO UNDERSTAND:

THE SAME PATTERN GOD TOLD MOSES TO SHOW TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, IS THE SAME PATTERN WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THE SAME HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD WHOM JESUS SENT WHO GOD TOLD MOSES ABOUT!! SO THAT THEY WOULD SEE HOW IT'S DONE.

ONWARD DISCIPLE OF CHRIST,
Connie

 

[GraceInHim]

jsisrl

 

[Jesus Is Real]

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jsisrl

Marina and all,

Yeah, if any thing presents 'another way' it's showing the heart of the beast to you. And it's riding on a - Beast. And it's not a beast of burden who is carrying upon it's back for loves sake. Let me say this clear to those who have ears to hear.

I'll now refer 'this other way' as "she."
The Lord uses the word "she" because it fornicates with many evil lovers - so I will too. This is not about gender but it's about a Picture-Form The Lord is using so it's best to us the word "she."

Any one joined to this fornicating Spirit and Beast much evil is being released.

She comes riding along to lift many up on it's beasts back for destruction and for her gain - she believes she helping God out with her many lovers.

She is no Priest of God.
She rides her beast!

Those that have ears let them hear.

Her beast, that she's riding on is not being slain - she loves it - loving the flesh nature. Any one joined to her can be male or female who fornicates with her, even joining with this demonic spirit. It doesn't care who joins with it - it is set on destruction where death and hell is their path.

She is not being a godly person to you nor a Priest unto Christ. If she would you would see her dying to this beast of mammon. She would take it before God, confess her sins and cut it's throat at the door of the Tabernacle of God.

And she believes that certain things she pushes on others is the path to ride into the sunset with for everlasting life when what she peddles is bondage to all where no Love is administered. She's in Idolatry.

Her Idol that she fornicates with, while riding the beast, has demons behind them.

Don't go in her path. Don't jump on her beast and don't peddle her merchandise.
She peddles "Condemntion and Rejection". It's an old enemy from the beginning.
It is a "Canannite Nation" - it's a merchant peddler folks! This is truly the root word of it's name!
And again, what she is peddling is "Condenmation and Rejection".

Now The Beast she's riding on wants to live, she likes it herself - so she will flatter just a bit to see who will succumb under the force she's is riding on - the beastly power. She has a motive to sell her goods, but her goods are not the way of Peace and Rest. But strife.

If she was a true Priest she would REPENT and slay the beast telling all of her sins to Jesus and then to cut the throat of the beast - which is just like her flesh which is Same As Satan. She has made her league and she wants to recruite you! Repent and run away from this habitation of demons!!!

But she won't Repent, though God has given her space to Repent.

Come out of her my people God has said - I say again now. That you may not receive of her plagues that God is about to pour out. The time is closer than it was 2000 years ago - and still back them Jesus said, "Surely I come quickly."

Fear God who made Heaven and Earth.

Salvation is of the Lord,
Connie

 

[GraceInHim]

very good words Jsisrl.. love it..

 

[Jesus Is Real]

very good words Jsisrl.. love it..

PRAY I NOW TO YOU AND ALL WHO HEAR:

2 Cor 13:7-14
7 Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.

8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

9 For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection.

10 Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.

11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

12 Greet one another with an holy kiss.

13 All the saints salute you.

14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.
KJV


Bless those who Love HIS NATURE AND CHARACTER,
Connie

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Marina,

MY PRAYER AND CONVICTION AS WELL AND FOR YOU FROM ME.


Phil 1:9-2:18
9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
12 But I would ye should understand, brethren, that the things which happened unto me have fallen out rather unto the furtherance of the gospel;
13 So that my bonds in Christ are manifest in all the palace, and in all other places;
14 And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.
25 And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith;
26 That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again.
27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.

Philippians 2

2:1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
17 Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all.
18 For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me.
KJV



Though may you all be blessed who seek His Face with a pure heart,
Connie

 

[Edial]

ok, you still did not answer my post when you said I stated that the Bible was edited, when I never said this.. ask a question with a question.. very good..

I asked to correct me if I'm wrong concerning "editing" question -

I am glad you are reading the NT.
Elsewhere you mentioned that you had difficulties with the church editing (I forgot the exact term you used)some Scripture. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

You did -
wrong.. who did I say edited what?.. rt is not editing

So my question is - what translation of the NT are you reading?

And if you are not reading NT, may I be of help resolving this problem?

Thanks,
Ed

 

[GraceInHim]

I asked to correct me if I'm wrong concerning "editing" question -

I am glad you are reading the NT.
Elsewhere you mentioned that you had difficulties with the church editing (I forgot the exact term you used)some Scripture. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

You did -
wrong.. who did I say edited what?.. rt is not editing

So my question is - what translation of the NT are you reading?

And if you are not reading NT, may I be of help resolving this problem?

Thanks,
Ed

relacement theology has nothing to do with editing, but speaking the words of God with another meaning.. when we read the words of God, we either come to a simple conclusion or make it more then it is.. get it?

when Jesus said to repent, did he mean to keep sinning and confessing, or did he mean to turn around our ways in life and become obedient? there can only be one answer..

why are you so concerned about what Bible I read? I read both OT and NT, and own many different Bibles..

thanks

 

[Edial]

relacement theology has nothing to do with editing, but speaking the words of God with another meaning.. when we read the words of God, we either come to a simple conclusion or make it more then it is.. get it?

Sure I get it.
There are commentaries that disagree with each other all over the place.
The main cause of disagreement is not taking the entire Bible, it's wealth of cross-references into consideration.
The Bible is supposed to be a rock against which all the views and opinions are thrown against. If the Bible contradicts the view even in one place, the view needs to reconsidered.

The contradictions and most of denominationalism come about when people use the Bible as a soap and sponge by which they wash their views to give it credibility.

when Jesus said to repent, did he mean to keep sinning and confessing, or did he mean to turn around our ways in life and become obedient? there can only be one answer..

And there is. And you answered it.

why are you so concerned about what Bible I read? I read both OT and NT, and own many different Bibles..

thanks

My concern is not what translation of NT you read, but whether you have any concerns with the NT. Are there areas that you do not agree with? Do you have problems with its authority in a life of a believer?

Again, I can be of help it trying to overcome such obstacles.

Thanks,
Ed

 

[GraceInHim]

My concern is not what translation of NT you read, but whether you have any concerns with the NT. Are there areas that you do not agree with? Do you have problems with its authority in a life of a believer?

Again, I can be of help it trying to overcome such obstacles.

the Bible is my companion.. never doubt it but learn and obedient to God Almighty.. studying Church History lately.. love the prophets and love Paul's epistles.. a man who truly came to the Gentiles so humble in the name of the Lord.. NO, I have no problems with the word of God, they are his words not man's to judge and be spoken against.. but sadly some do question it more, I rather ask God for guidance when reading rather then taking only man's word..

thanks