Israel-Hamas Thread II

[rjs330]

I believe that the Russians actually got to Hitler’s bunker first, and it took slightly over a week for Germany’s surrender; I also know what a ghetto looketh like.

Not sure how that's relevant to my point. We were all working together to remove him. Somebody has to. And with Hamas, they should be removed from governance. Volutarily or involuntarily. Just like Hitler and his government was.

 

[Pommer]

Not sure how that's relevant to my point. We were all working together to remove him. Somebody has to. And with Hamas, they should be removed from governance. Volutarily or involuntarily. Just like Hitler and his government was.

My point was the Gaza=Warsaw ghetto

 

[essentialsaltes]

Middle East live updates: First hostages being handed to Red Cross, source says​

Hamas' military wing -- the Al-Qassam Brigades -- said it "handed over three Israeli female prisoners" to the Red Cross in Gaza City.

A spokesperson for the U.K. Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office said the government welcomed Sunday's announcement that joint British-Israeli national Emily Damari will be among three hostages released from Hamas captivity in Gaza.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Some in Israel also support ethnic cleansing and a second Nakba.

When asked what Israel should do with the Gaza Strip in the event that all the territory’s residents be forcibly driven out, Azoulai responded that it should be “left empty, just like Auschwitz. A museum, so the whole world will learn what the state of Israel can do.”

While managing the current phase of the deal and negotiating the next, Trump and his team also are contending with longer-term solutions.

“If we don’t help the Gazans, if we don’t make their life better, if we don’t give them a sense of hope, there’s going to be a rebellion,” the transition official said.

The question of how to rebuild Gaza remains, as well as where some 2 million Palestinians can be relocated in the meantime. Indonesia, for instance, is among the locations under discussion for where some of them could go, the transition official said.

 

[S.ilvio]

Trump needs to cut off the constant flow of money to the Christian hating Zionist regime in Israel.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Trump needs to cut off the constant flow of money to the Christian hating Zionist regime in Israel.

Never going to happen, especially with Mike Huckabee as Ambassador.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Some in Israel also support ethnic cleansing and a second Nakba.

When asked what Israel should do with the Gaza Strip in the event that all the territory’s residents be forcibly driven out, Azoulai responded that it should be “left empty, just like Auschwitz. A museum, so the whole world will learn what the state of Israel can do.”

While managing the current phase of the deal and negotiating the next, Trump and his team also are contending with longer-term solutions.

“If we don’t help the Gazans, if we don’t make their life better, if we don’t give them a sense of hope, there’s going to be a rebellion,” the transition official said.

Trump has come around to the cleansing plan.

Trump says he wants to 'clean out' Gaza and move Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt​

Trump also confirmed he had instructed the military to resume shipments of 2,000-pound bombs to Israel, which had been paused over concerns about civilian casualties.

“You’re talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing and say, ‘You know, it’s over,’” he added.

the president’s sentiments were welcomed by ultranationalist Israeli politicians, including Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir, who resigned as national security minister after Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government voted to accept the ceasefire agreement.

Smotrich called the idea of finding new homes for Gaza residents “wonderful,” telling Israeli broadcaster Channel 12 on Sunday that “only out-of-the-box thinking and new solutions will bring peace and security.”

United Nations Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese said on X on Sunday that “ethnic cleansing is anything but ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking no matter how one packages it.”

 

[Desk trauma]

Never going to happen, especially with Mike Huckabee as Ambassador.

They clearly have a biblical right to American money.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

They clearly have a biblical right to American money.

And weapons.

 

[DaisyDay]

Trump has come around to the cleansing plan.

Trump says he wants to 'clean out' Gaza and move Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt​

Trump also confirmed he had instructed the military to resume shipments of 2,000-pound bombs to Israel, which had been paused over concerns about civilian casualties.

“You’re talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing and say, ‘You know, it’s over,’” he added.

the president’s sentiments were welcomed by ultranationalist Israeli politicians, including Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir, who resigned as national security minister after Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government voted to accept the ceasefire agreement.

Smotrich called the idea of finding new homes for Gaza residents “wonderful,” telling Israeli broadcaster Channel 12 on Sunday that “only out-of-the-box thinking and new solutions will bring peace and security.”

United Nations Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese said on X on Sunday that “ethnic cleansing is anything but ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking no matter how one packages it.”

Well, to be fair, how is Ivanka's hubby going to develop the seaside condos with all those ...people.... hanging around whining about how their houses, land, farms, businesses, families. lives got destroyed? This is prime real estate, especially with the coming Ben Gurion Canal!

 

[Philip_B]

They clearly have a biblical right to American money.

I am guessing he is not choosing to offer them asylum in the USA. The assumption that Palestinian Culture and Identity are an automating fit for Jordan and Egypt is simply displaying the same cultural indifference that Lord Balfour did when he reneged on undertakings made to King Faisal and Laurence of Arabia. Enabling others to bully the harassed and helpless does not display the greatness of America, however, it does grate with many of us who believe that each person born is made in the image and after the likeness of God.

 

[civilwarbuff]

"As the bodies of four Israeli hostages are transferred by Hamas to the Red Cross, hundreds of ‘innocent Gazans’ dance to music, and happily film this tragic event," Israel's Government Press Office wrote on X. "Speechless doesn’t begin to describe how this makes us feel."

Hamas hands over bodies of 4 slain Israelis, including Shiri Bibas and her two young boys

Hamas has turned over the bodies of four slain Israeli hostages more than 500 days after the terrorist group's Oct. 7, 2023, attack in Israel.

www.foxnews.com

Aren't the 'peaceful gazans' just a group of lovely people?

 

[civilwarbuff]

And even more 'peaceful gazans'.....

A group of anti-Israel demonstrators descended on an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in New York City on Tuesday, leading to violent clashes and chaotic scenes, according to reports and video.

Several fights broke out as the agitators chanted, "Zionists go to hell," and waved Palestinian flags at the Borough Park protest in Brooklyn. The neighborhood is well known for its large Orthodox Jewish population.

Anti-Israel protest in NYC devolves into violence and mayhem

A group of anti-Israel demonstrators descended on an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn on Tuesday leading to violent clashes and chaotic scenes, according to reports and video.

www.foxnews.com

 

[essentialsaltes]

And even more 'peaceful gazans'.....

A group of anti-Israel demonstrators descended on an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in New York City

I expect these are New Yorkers, not Gazans.

 

[essentialsaltes]

"As the bodies of four Israeli hostages are transferred by Hamas to the Red Cross, hundreds of ‘innocent Gazans’ dance to music, and happily film this tragic event," Israel's Government Press Office wrote on X. "Speechless doesn’t begin to describe how this makes us feel."

Video of the event does not seem to support this description. It is being filmed, but hard to tell how happy the cameramen are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/20/hostages-hamas-gaza-israel-bibas-family/

 

[civilwarbuff]

I expect these are New Yorkers, not Gazans.

So are you saying liberal New York City is anti-Semitic? Do New Yorker's make it a habit of having anti-Israel demonstrations in Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods?

 

[civilwarbuff]

It is being filmed, but hard to tell how happy the cameramen are.

They don't HAVE to be there.....

 

[civilwarbuff]

For all the Hamas sympathizers something to cheer about and celebrate (deceit and trickery is their forte):

Body returned from Gaza is not Shiri Bibas, Israeli military says | BBC News​

 

[civilwarbuff]

PM Netanyahu: "Who kidnaps a little boy and a baby and murders them? Monsters. That's who."​

 

[essentialsaltes]

Body returned from Gaza is not Shiri Bibas, Israeli military says | BBC News​

Body of Israeli hostage Shiri Bibas has been returned, family says​

The body of Israeli hostage Shiri Bibas has been returned to Israel after Hamas sent back the wrong one.

The Bibas family confirmed Saturday morning the human remains that were returned to Israel from the war-torn Gaza Strip on Friday have been identified as that of 32-year-old Shiri.