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So? The amount once side loses in comparison to the other is not a basis to decide which side is the justified side. You may actually be the just side who kills more of the enemy than the unjust side.Far more Palestinians have been killed by Israelis than vice versa since 1948.
I wasn't aware that South Africa had a presence in gaza.......learn sump'n new ever day......Yes, this was said prior to the hearings and before seeing the evidence that South Africa has to prove its case.
As I ask every critic of Israel and their supporters, what would you do to stop the war and ensure peace in Gaza and Israel? The "Palestinians" (who do not exist as a nation or a race) won't accept the right of Israel to exist. Israel will not put up with constant attacks any longer. I don't know what nation would. The UN is demonstrably useless and obviously biased against Israel. Peacekeepers? A lot of good they are doing in Lebanon, I don't think. Gazans voted in Hamas. Hamas has been attacking Israel since around 2006. Israel's mistake was to try and limit Hamas' attacks. They should have buried Hamas the first time Hamas assaulted Israel.I don't agree with the US government's unconditional backing of Israel in this conflict.
Israel recognizing Palestine as a state and the Palestinians as a people would be a good start.As I ask every critic of Israel and their supporters, what would you do to stop the war and ensure peace in Gaza and Israel? The "Palestinians" (who do not exist as a nation or a race) won't accept the right of Israel to exist.
They have done that, it was Rejected. Do you remember Arafat? They refused. You are defending Hamas in this statement.Israel recognizing Palestine as a state and the Palestinians as a people would be a good start.
It is false equivalence from the get go anyway. Africans are native to the land, "Palestinians" are not. They are Arabic.I wasn't aware that South Africa had a presence in gaza.......learn sump'n new ever day......
Israel has never recognized an independent state of Palestine.They have done that, it was Rejected. Do you remember Arafat? They refused.
That statement in no way defends Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist groupYou are defending Hamas in this statement.
Hamas must be destroyed
The terrorists must be hunted down, held accountable for their actions, and the terrorist group eliminated.
Hamas is clearly an enemy to both Israel and the Palestinian people and must be eradicated.
The terrorists and their leadership must be held accountable for their actions, and the terrorist group must be neutralized.
Then demand with the rest of us they cease fire. You cannot deal with terrorists, which goes to your first statement. They have never been recognized because they refused every offer. They wanted "their land " back. A farce in itself. It was no more their land than it was anyone elses, especially Israel. That land has been "occupied" by many throughout the centuries. It did not stop being occupied because some Arabs settled in the land that was occupied. They have refused all deals due to that fallacy. It is still going on today, and those who defend their cause are simply agreeing, that Arabs settling in occupied land makes it their land.Israel has never recognized an independent state of Palestine.
That statement in no way defends Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist group
Then demand they cease fire?I've described the acts of Hamas as being horrific and described them as being evil and barbaric in another thread. In this thread I have made the following statements:
Then demand with the rest of us they cease fire.
What's the point? Calling on a terrorist group like Hamas to agree to a cease fire is meaningless. After all, they have already vowed to repeat attacks on Israel "again and again" until it’s destroyed. A cease fire means nothing if they're just going to break it at some point in the future anyway.Then demand they cease fire?
High on prejudice low on evidence.Yes, as I and others have explained before, the jihadists will surround themselves with women and children just to advance their cause, to kill all Jews and Christians. They hope you and others will use the numbers killed to plead their case. You just don't see them show any remorse for who they kill, their own or others. All for the cause. Israel is geographically close so Israel will come first, but Israel is the little Satan to them and the United States the Big Satan. They have begged the U.S. for monetary assistance for their poor people, and yet virtually all the assistance provided goes into killing "non-believers." It is worthwhile to listen to what they tell their people rather than what their diplomats say, here is a short video of the advisor to the Palestinian president:
Yet so many on the American hard left support them. What do you think they would do with American homosexuals and trans and for that matter all of the American women?Advisor To Palestinian President Mahmoud Habbash In West Bank Friday Sermon: 'Criminal America Is Responsible For Every Single Drop Of Palestinian Blood Shed In Gaza—They Will Pay for This'
Mahmoud Habbash, advisor to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said in a December 29, 2023, Friday sermon, delivered i...www.memri.org
So blame it on Israel instead? Israel is in control under above ground. Palestinians don't have any need to fear them. Why are they staying?What's the point? Calling on a terrorist group like Hamas to agree to a cease fire is meaningless.
Right. So why are Palestinians staying there. Call it what it is.After all, they have already vowed to repeat attacks on Israel "again and again" until it’s destroyed. A cease fire means nothing if they're just going to break it at some point in the future anyway.
Because it is their homeland too, they are the descendants of the British Palestinian Mandated Territory.Right. So why are Palestinians staying there. Call it what it is.
Quite a lot of them can't. Because they're dead.So blame it on Israel instead? Israel is in control under above ground. Palestinians don't have any need to fear them. Why are they staying?
They stay because it is their home.Why are they staying?
So why are Palestinians staying there.
And what happened? The Arabs began a war to rid itself of Israel.... Israel won the war. As I said that land has always been occupied. Why all of a sudden, occupiers, makes a claim to the land? They were there by the very same means. So, no, it was not their homeland, it was now Israels homeland. They got it through war, Israel got it through war. SimpleBecause it is their homeland too, they are the descendants of the British Palestinian Mandated Territory.
Read the above.So, is citizenship a right? Does not every human being have a right to belong in some place on the planet?
They themselves originally were occupiers. They are not NATIVE to that land. They got it by warfare, and now Israel also did. Because they attempted to wipe Israel off the map. Israel has been more than generous in giving them Gaza.They stay because it is their home.
“We are all Palestinians. We live in the same city, with the same suffering. We are all under siege and are all the same, the Christians are suffering like any other Gaza people, this is our land and we will not leave. Can you imagine that someone called you and forced you and your family to go to another place? We will stay." -- Kamel Ayyad, Spokesperson for the Church of Saint Porphyrius in Gaza City
"I came back to my house in Gaza because if I want to die, let me die in my home," Um Asad Al Shamali
They stay because it is their home.
“We are all Palestinians. We live in the same city, with the same suffering. We are all under siege and are all the same, the Christians are suffering like any other Gaza people, this is our land and we will not leave. Can you imagine that someone called you and forced you and your family to go to another place? We will stay." -- Kamel Ayyad, Spokesperson for the Church of Saint Porphyrius in Gaza City
"I came back to my house in Gaza because if I want to die, let me die in my home," Um Asad Al Shamali
Gaza’s Christians have been there since the first century, how far back do we need to go to consider someone to be a native of the land?They themselves originally were occupiers. They are not NATIVE to that land.
Stop, please. Rome were the occupiers of the land. not nativeGaza’s Christians have been there since the first century, how far back do we need to go to consider someone to be a native of the land?
Israel has offered to work out a deal and it's been rejected every time by the Palestinians. They had their opportunities to be recognized by Israel and refused.Israel has never recognized an independent state of Palestine.
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