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Historic (non-Christian) writings along with the Bible and all of the modern prophetic texts validate the death of Jesus on the Cross... Along comes Muhammad who claims otherwise....I think liar may be harsh language. Since we cannot know if he genuinely believed what he said, saying he was wrong or mistaken seems to be a more appropriate statement.
Historic (non-Christian) writings along with the Bible and all of the modern prophetic texts validate the death of Jesus on the Cross... Along comes Muhammad who claims otherwise....
He shouldn't have touched the gospel. It is his own fault, when people call him a liar...
That he was delusional, that is probable... (delusion of grandeur)...Neither make him a liar. If you believe what you are saying, it isn't lying. Lying is knowingly not telling the truth. One can be mistaken or delusional and they are not liars.
Ishaq:184 "Umm, Abu Talib's daughter, said: "The Apostle went on no journey except while he was in my house. He slept in my home that night after he prayed the final night prayer. A little before dawn he woke us, saying, 'O Umm, I went to Jerusalem.' He got up to go out and I grabbed hold of his robe and laid bare his belly. I pleaded, 'O Muhammad, don't tell the people about this for they will know you are lying and will mock you.' He said, 'By Allah, I will tell them.' I told a n egress slave of mine, 'Follow him and listen.'"
As the story spread, Muhammad’s fledgling cadre of followers abandoned him. The disillusionment was confirmed by Katib al Wackidi, "Upon hearing this many became renegades who had prayed and joined Islam." The Sira says: Ishaq:183 "Many Muslims gave up their faith. Some went to Abu Bakr and said, 'What do you think of your friend now? He alleges that he went to Jerusalem last night and prayed there and came back to Mecca.' Bakr said that they were lying about the Apostle. But they told him that he was in the mosque at this very moment telling the Quraysh about it. Bakr said, 'If he says so then it must be true. I believe him. And that is more extraordinary than his story at which you boggle.' Then Allah sent down a Qur'an surah concerning those who left Islam for this reason: 'We made the vision which we showed you only, a test for men. We put them in fear, but it only adds to their heinous error.'" [Qur'an 13:33] Once again, Muhammad flips out and it's everyone's fault but his own. And while it's not surprising anymore, the 13th surah was handed down in Medina, not Mecca.
What's surprising is that the "Thunder" surah actually rebukes Muhammad’s claim of a miraculous journey. After saying, Qur'an 76:4 "Those who deny will wear collars and chains, yokes (of servitude) tying their hands to their necks; they will be the inmates of Hell.... They will witness Our (many) exemplary punishments! Verily, your Lord is severe in retribution," we are told that Muhammad was unable to perform a miracle. Qur'an 13:7 "The unbelievers say, 'Why was no sign or miracle sent down to him by his Lord.' But you are only the bearer of bad news - of warnings." The admission is repeated: Qur'an 13:27 "The unbelievers say, 'How is it that no sign miracle was sent down to him by his Lord.' Say, 'God leads whosoever He wills astray.'" There were deceptions but no miracles.
But he knew all to well, that he wasn't a prophet.. And as such, he was a liar...
I don't insult him, but I have a clear disbelief. At best, I certainly don't think he was a prophet to Israel, my people. At worst, he was a false prophet. How am I viewed?
***********jihad in numbers
http://dttj.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-stop-muslim-immigration.html
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country it will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone.
Note throughout the exponential scale of Islamic influence as the percentage of Muslim population per country increases.
1.0-2.0%
United States, Australia, Canada, China, Italy, Norway
At 2% and 3% they [Muslims] begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs."
2.0-4.0%
Denmark,Germany,United Kingdom,Spain,Italy
From 5% on they [Muslims] exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal ("clean" by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves - along with threats for failure to comply (United States).
5.0-9.0%
France,Philippines,Sweden,Switzerland,The Netherlands,Trinidad & Tobago
At this point, they [Muslims] will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, or Islamic law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris - car burning). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam, Denmark - Mohammed cartoons, murder of Theo van Gogh).
10.0-15.0%
Guyana,India,Israel,Kenya,Russia
The one anomaly in this set of statistics is Israel, which has not experienced uprisings and threats of violence. Its Arab or Muslim population enjoys equal political rights with Jewish Israelis. The suicide bombings and rocket attacks that have killed hundreds have been perpetrated by outsiders.
After reaching 20% [of a population] expect hair-trigger rioting, Jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia: 32.8
After 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
40.0-60.0%
Bosnia,Chad,Lebanon
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and jizya, the tax placed on [conquered] infidels:
60-80%
Albania, Malaysia, Qatar, Sudan
After 80%, expect state-run ethnic cleansing and genocide:"
  
80-99%
Bangladesh, Egypt, Gaza, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan, Palestine, Syria, Tajikistan,
Turkey, United Arab Emirates
I question the inclusion of "Palestine" in this set. "Palestine" simply means space occupied by stateless "Palestinians" in Gaza and the West Bank, and is the name of the state which Islamists wish to replace Israel, once it is destroyed. Turkey, after decades of having a secular, non-religious government, is beginning to turn "religious," and seems to be yearning for the kind of Muslim government that cleansed the country in 1915 of non-Muslim Armenians in a genocide that predates the Holocaust.
"100% will usher in the peace of Dar-es-Salaam' - the Islamic House of Peace' [more correctly, dar-al-Islam, or Land of Islam]. There is supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim."
99.9-100%
Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia,Yemen
 
x2...Wow, great post. Thanks!!!
Except when one is completely insane, the person knows whether or he tells the truth or not... Don't you think, that one a man says he is a prophet, when he is not (because he knew nothing about the workings of the gift of prophecy), that the man doesn't know that he is lying??
Bukhari:V7B67N427 "The Prophet said, 'If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.'"
Qur'an 66:2 "Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows."
Qur'an 5:41 "Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them."
Except when one is completely insane, the person knows whether or he tells the truth or not... Don't you think, that one a man says he is a prophet, when he is not (because he knew nothing about the workings of the gift of prophecy), that the man doesn't know that he is lying?
Like many Christian priests, eh?
Actually that's not I said.No because that isnt as grave a crime in Islam as insulting the Prophet. And that act which you mention (robbery) already has its prescribed punishment in Islam and its not death
Yes, I understood that. You originally said the judge passes sentenceIts the Judge who passes the sentence. Whoever carries out the actual punishment is one who is aware of how to carry out the punishment
Oh, but he has a point, that the priests who did this, are also despicable.. And they will have a double reward for their actions.
They are part of the reason, why the world does not know whether Christianity is a blessing or a curse...
اللهم اغفر لقومي فإنهم لا يعلمون
Matthew 13
14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15 For this peoples heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
Fair enough. I simply think in the interest of peace it would be best to avoid direct insults. Language is an incredibly powerful tool and I think it best to work together. I disagree with Muhammad as well, I don't think he was a prophet, but I won't incite people by saying he was a liar. I just think it's bad form.That's your good right... But the sayings of Muhammad and Jesus are opposed....
Jacob 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and [your] nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
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