Islam doesn't condone terror

[plenary]

The guy loved cats, though. That's a plus!

And he was also good with Children...

 

[Satt]

And he was also good with Children...

 

[Ayersy]

And he was also good with Children...

Different kinda love there, indeed!

 

[SlaveOfGod]

It's such a peaceful religion....

So much for Jihad only being fought with words...

And would you yourself be willing to murder anyone who does insult "the prophet"...

God save us from this madness...

Like I mentioned the punishment is only brought down by Islamic judges and not for the common folk like I or anyone else.

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

Even today the death penalty is practices in some “modern” countries, yet nobody raises an eyebrow. This is strange. Our religion made it clear about what we can and cant do.

Killing someone in for no good reason is not allowed in Islam, for example killing someone for simply being a Christian is forbidden and both the Quran and the Sunnah confirm this

I can see you have just warped whatever I have said and disrespecting our religion but it really doesnt bother me in the slightest

 

[Robban]

Like I mentioned the punishment is only brought down by Islamic judges and not for the common folk like I or anyone else.

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

Even today the death penalty is practices in some “modern” countries, yet nobody raises an eyebrow. This is strange. Our religion made it clear about what we can and cant do.

Killing someone in for no good reason is not allowed in Islam, for example killing someone for simply being a Christian is forbidden and both the Quran and the Sunnah confirm this

I can see you have just warped whatever I have said and disrespecting our religion but it really doesnt bother me in the slightest

Even if it is up to the judge, someone has to bring it to his attention.
And then may become complicated, witnesses.

 

[Ayersy]

Like I mentioned the punishment is only brought down by Islamic judges and not for the common folk like I or anyone else.

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

Even today the death penalty is practices in some “modern” countries, yet nobody raises an eyebrow. This is strange. Our religion made it clear about what we can and cant do.

Killing someone in for no good reason is not allowed in Islam, for example killing someone for simply being a Christian is forbidden and both the Quran and the Sunnah confirm this

I can see you have just warped whatever I have said and disrespecting our religion but it really doesnt bother me in the slightest

The problem is, the judges are Islamic, they have a clear and personal bias. It's not justice, at all.

Also, why should non-Muslims be subject to the rules of Islam? I don't believe in any of your prophets, why should I have to respect them?

I take it you don't rest on the Sabbath, so why should other religions have to fear death for not catering to Islam?

 

[Satt]

Just leave that crap in the Middle East and we will be fine.

 

[SlaveOfGod]

The problem is, the judges are Islamic, they have a clear and personal bias. It's not justice, at all.

Also, why should non-Muslims be subject to the rules of Islam? I don't believe in any of your prophets, why should I have to respect them?

I take it you don't rest on the Sabbath, so why should other religions have to fear death for not catering to Islam?

They shouldnt be because being a judge means ruling according to what is the truth. As Allah tells Muslims to in the Quran:

إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَأْمُرُكُمْ أَن تُؤدُّواْ الاحَمَـنَـتِ إِلَى أَهْلِهَا وَإِذَا حَكَمْتُمْ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ أَن تَحْكُمُواْ بِالْعَدْلِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ نِعِمَّا يَعِظُكُمْ بِهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ سَمِيعاً بَصِيراً

Verily, Allah commands that you should render back the trusts to those, to whom they are due; and that when you judge between men, you judge with justice. Verily, how excellent is the teaching which He (Allah) gives you! Truly, Allah is Ever All-Hearer, All-Seer

This is a clear command to the Muslims to be just in judgement. Those that dont are not following this command and should be referred back to these Words

 

[b&wpac7]

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

I don't insult him, but I have a clear disbelief. At best, I certainly don't think he was a prophet to Israel, my people. At worst, he was a false prophet. How am I viewed?

 

[simonpeter]

Like I mentioned the punishment is only brought down by Islamic judges and not for the common folk like I or anyone else.

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

Even today the death penalty is practices in some “modern” countries, yet nobody raises an eyebrow. This is strange. Our religion made it clear about what we can and cant do.

Killing someone in for no good reason is not allowed in Islam, for example killing someone for simply being a Christian is forbidden and both the Quran and the Sunnah confirm this

I can see you have just warped whatever I have said and disrespecting our religion but it really doesnt bother me in the slightest

One doubt, if I may. Does this only apply to Muslims who insult the prophet, or to non-Muslims as well?

 

[b&wpac7]

One doubt, if I may. Does this only apply to Muslims who insult the prophet, or to non-Muslims as well?

In a previous post, he indicated that it applies to non-Muslims.

 

[Robban]

Like I mentioned the punishment is only brought down by Islamic judges and not for the common folk like I or anyone else.

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

Even today the death penalty is practices in some “modern” countries, yet nobody raises an eyebrow. This is strange. Our religion made it clear about what we can and cant do.

Killing someone in for no good reason is not allowed in Islam, for example killing someone for simply being a Christian is forbidden and both the Quran and the Sunnah confirm this

I can see you have just warped whatever I have said and disrespecting our religion but it really doesnt bother me in the slightest

I for one do not envy the task of being a judge in a court, and am very happy that I do not have that laid upon me. But we are all judges in a way, considering we have free choice.
My intention is not warp or disrespect your "religion".
Listened as recently as yesterday to a two hour class on the Mishnah,
where the Rabbi said,"An eye for an eye", is the most missunderstood statement in the Torah, if taken literary, so is it so dangerous to stop and think,does what this say really mean it the way it appears to say.
It is simply not good enough for folks to go around killing each other because of a difference in opinion. Life is too short as it is.

 

[b&wpac7]

Listened as recently as yesterday to a two hour class on the Mishnah,
where the Rabbi said,"An eye for an eye", is the most missunderstood statement in the Torah, if taken literary, so is it so dangerous to stop and think,does what this say really mean it the way it appears to say.

I too have heard such teachings.

 

[Robban]

I too have heard such teachings.

I know dear B&W.
Thing is, it appears that not all "teachers" should be teachers, concerning terror and suicide bombers, Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau got it right when he said, not exact words, but went something like this,-If it is so easy to get to paradise, you just have to blow yourself up, and take as many innocent lives with you,"Then why don,t those who teach this do the same?"

 

[plenary]

Like I mentioned the punishment is only brought down by Islamic judges and not for the common folk like I or anyone else.

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah. Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst actions and constitutes clear disbelief according to both classical and modern day scholars. Even if you do this insulting as a joke or whether serious.

Even today the death penalty is practices in some “modern” countries, yet nobody raises an eyebrow. This is strange. Our religion made it clear about what we can and cant do.

Killing someone in for no good reason is not allowed in Islam, for example killing someone for simply being a Christian is forbidden and both the Quran and the Sunnah confirm this

I can see you have just warped whatever I have said and disrespecting our religion but it really doesnt bother me in the slightest

I totally disrespect the fact that people are willing to murder anyone, who "disrespects" Muhammad......

And what i think of Muhammad?

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

8 وَلكِنْ إِنْ بَشَّرْنَاكُمْ نَحْنُ أَوْ مَلاَكٌ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ بِغَيْرِ مَا بَشَّرْنَاكُمْ، فَلْيَكُنْ «أَنَاثِيمَا»!

Because he taught another gospel (he preached that Christ didn't die on the Cross and that Christ isn't the Son of God...)....

So, Galatians 1:8 is what I think of Muhammad...

Matthew 7:
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

15 «اِحْتَرِزُوا مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ الْكَذَبَةِ الَّذِينَ يَأْتُونَكُمْ بِثِيَاب الْحُمْلاَنِ، وَلكِنَّهُمْ مِنْ دَاخِل ذِئَابٌ خَاطِفَةٌ!

Which totally describes Muhammad.
The fruits of Muhammad were terror, oppression and murder..

We love the Prophet more than our own mothers and children and protecting his honour is a right upon every Muslim and the right of Allah.

And that is the big problem.. Because there shouldn't be any difference between the love has for his fellow human.. Whether he be Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, atheist or whatever denomination... That is why the second part of the highest law in Christianity is what it is...

But most Muslims seem to be completely ignorant of the basic laws of Christianity, although they say they accept Christ as a prophet. Which is a baloney sandwich...

 

[Ayersy]

They shouldnt be because being a judge means ruling according to what is the truth. As Allah tells Muslims to in the Quran:

إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَأْمُرُكُمْ أَن تُؤدُّواْ الاحَمَـنَـتِ إِلَى أَهْلِهَا وَإِذَا حَكَمْتُمْ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ أَن تَحْكُمُواْ بِالْعَدْلِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ نِعِمَّا يَعِظُكُمْ بِهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ سَمِيعاً بَصِيراً

Verily, Allah commands that you should render back the trusts to those, to whom they are due; and that when you judge between men, you judge with justice. Verily, how excellent is the teaching which He (Allah) gives you! Truly, Allah is Ever All-Hearer, All-Seer

This is a clear command to the Muslims to be just in judgement. Those that dont are not following this command and should be referred back to these Words

Judging somebody guilty because of a perceived insult to your own personal beliefs certainly is biased.

A non-Muslim judge would certainly never sentence somebody to death for insulting a prophet, would he?

If what they know as the truth, isn't actually true, then they aren't being just at all. They're judging others based on their own personal beliefs, not on actual evidence.

 

[PHenry42]

I didn't know that you were a Radical Islamist Henry,thank you for the clarification.That explains everything.Might I also remind you that there is a code of coduct that governs a Free Society which is a concept you don't seem to grasp.That is why we have Law Enforcement .

Oh, I'm well aware of what law enforcement it, and even used it on Christian punks who have contested my religious freedom. Now, have you made up your mind yet on whether the world is in fact busy appeasing us or not?

 

[plenary]

Oh, I'm well aware of what law enforcement it, and even used it on Christian punks who have contested my religious freedom. Now, have you made up your mind yet on whether the world is in fact busy appeasing us or not?

You mean the religious freedom to murder anyone who disrespects "the prophet"? And if I say the truth, say, that Muhammad was a liar, is that the same as disrespecting Muhammad?

If that is the definition of your type of religious freedom, than no, you don't have that freedom nor should you ever have that freedom... As that is completely opposed to Christian law as well as humanistic law...

Life without freedom of expression and freedom of religion is no life at all and is not worth living...

 

[b&wpac7]

You mean the religious freedom to murder anyone who disrespects "the prophet"? And if I say the truth, say, that Muhammad was a liar, is that the same as disrespecting Muhammad?

I think liar may be harsh language. Since we cannot know if he genuinely believed what he said, saying he was wrong or mistaken seems to be a more appropriate statement.

 

[FRM48]

Henry all you have to do is open your eyes and look.Ramadan dinner in the White House.Snubbing Franklin Graham a prominent Christian.Bowing to Saudi Arabia's crowned prince and kissing his hand in an act of submission.Don't even get me start on airport security and the TSA.Then there is the The United Nations where there is so much ANTISEMITISM it makes me sick,tell me Henry do you see any nations standing up to speak out against the Islamic nations who foam at the mouth against Israel ?No because its part of the appeasement MENTALITY .Appeasement is not always in the form of land concessions,it can also be a change in philosophy,giving in because of fear of reprisals.But that's what Radical Islam is all about ,isn't it Henry.Striking fear into the heart of the Infidel,slaying them wherever you may find them.So Henry you'll find no appeasement in my statements only truth.