Is YAHWEH andALLAH the same person?

[sunlover1]

They BELIEVE their Jehovah tells them to kill. This isn't difficult.

It's in their book,
And no, it's not difficult.

 

[simonthezealot]

It's in their book,
And no, it's not difficult.

exactly; Surah 5, 8 and 9 continually subscribe this...

 

[Amatorreginae]

Here's my view: Ishmael, the ancestor of the Arabs, was a descendant of Abraham, and according to Exodus 6:3 God did not reveal his Name to Abraham. So Ishmael was unable to know the name of God, probably because it had not been in existence before its revelation to Moses. Throughout Genesis Jehovah is known as El Shaddai or as (Ha')Elohim ([The] God). The word Allah is derived from al-Illah (the God), and has been and continues to be used in the Jewish and Christian Bibles. However, by Mohammed's time the identity of Allah had probably ceased to be exclusively that of Jehovah. When Mohammed founded his new religion Allah was one of 360 gods worshipped at the Kaaba. Much like the word Baal, which simply meant 'lord' and was probably at one time used in reference to Jehovah, Allah came to signify quite a different god. I feel that the word Allah has become contaminated by the Mohammedan religion and would be better avoided by Christians and Jews in the sense of the one true God.

 

[random person]

this is truly a trick question because if my memory serves me correctly in the arabic translation of holy bible which predates the quran may have rendered yahweh as allah but dont quote me on this.

are they the same god? obviously not - 1 john 2:22-23

 

[FredVB]

Yahweh is the God of love, and is holy, righteous and just, though long patient for those who will come to God according to the provision for that. Allah of Muslims and the Qur'an isn't all those things.

According to who? You? Islamic scholar, are we?

Well, I have read the Bible, and I have read the Qur'an, English translation, it's just that.

Depends on who you ask.
He must know something we don't.

That I have read those has me know some things from it, you or any might know the same things from reading those too.

Here's my view: Ishmael, the ancestor of the Arabs, was a descendant of Abraham, and according to Exodus 6:3 God did not reveal his Name to Abraham. So Ishmael was unable to know the name of God, probably because it had not been in existence before its revelation to Moses. Throughout Genesis Jehovah is known as El Shaddai or as (Ha')Elohim ([The] God). The word Allah is derived from al-Illah (the God), and has been and continues to be used in the Jewish and Christian Bibles. However, by Mohammed's time the identity of Allah had probably ceased to be exclusively that of Jehovah. When Mohammed founded his new religion Allah was one of 360 gods worshipped at the Kaaba. Much like the word Baal, which simply meant 'lord' and was probably at one time used in reference to Jehovah, Allah came to signify quite a different god. I feel that the word Allah has become contaminated by the Mohammedan religion and would be better avoided by Christians and Jews in the sense of the one true God.

Yet text in Genesis shows, even if Yahweh did not identify himself by this name to Abraham, the name was already known, and Abraham knew it. This would be more clear with translations keeping God's name there, rather than the substitution of "LORD" in its place, or "GOD" when after "Lord".

Christian believers who speak primarily Arabic are still going to refer to God as "Allah", that is all the word means. Just the Muslim concept of Allah in Islam, that described in the Qur'an, is not compatible with Yahweh, God described in the Bible. They can't be inspired from the same source.

this is truly a trick question because if my memory serves me correctly in the arabic translation of holy bible which predates the quran may have rendered yahweh as allah but dont quote me on this.
are they the same god? obviously not - 1 john 2:22-23

I don't know that is the case, but God would be designated as "Allah".

 

[FredVB]

There is only one GOD, really, and no other being is God, in any case. Yahweh is the one God, exclusively. Yahweh told us to remember that. Even though those speaking Arabic might call Yahweh by the term Allah, God did not author the Koran.

 

[RDKirk]

There is only one GOD, really, and no other being is God, in any case. Yahweh is the one God, exclusively. Yahweh told us to remember that. Even though those speaking Arabic might call Yahweh by the term Allah, God did not author the Koran.

The god of the Koran is not, however, the God that is worshipped by Christians.

 

[FredVB]

The god of the Koran is not, however, the God that is worshipped by Christians.

That's the same thing that I said. There is no other real God still.

 

[Jipsah]

The god of the Koran is not, however, the God that is worshipped by Christians.

Yeah, given that we believe that God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and that God Himself "became flesh and dwelt among us", then while Muslims and Jews arguably worship the same God, we Christians don't.

 

[RDKirk]

Yeah, given that we believe that God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and that God Himself "became flesh and dwelt among us", then while Muslims and Jews arguably worship the same God, we Christians don't.

The Koran view of the Old Testament is not the Jewish Torah. The stories are considerably different (for instance, in the Islamic view, Ishmael is the "child of promise"). There are so many differences, I would argue that Muslims and Jews do not worship the same God.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I hear many people say when Muslims refer to ALLAH they are worshiping the same God Christians worship YAHWEH and others say Islam is worships ALLAH as a moon God and is NOT the same God Christians worship.

So is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob YHWH/YAH/YAHWEH... etc, the same God ALLAH that Islam claims to worship??

They believe that Allah is the God of Abraham, Issac, & Jacob. There is only One God of Abraham, Issac & Jacob. They also believe in the story of Adam & Eve and the flood and the story of Noah. So they are worshiping the same God in that aspect but they have a lot of false information mixed into their theology.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Yeah, given that we believe that God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and that God Himself "became flesh and dwelt among us", then while Muslims and Jews arguably worship the same God, we Christians don't.

That doesn’t mean they’re worshipping a different god it just means their theology is flawed.

 

[BNR32FAN]

The Koran view of the Old Testament is not the Jewish Torah. The stories are considerably different (for instance, in the Islamic view, Ishmael is the "child of promise"). There are so many differences, I would argue that Muslims and Jews do not worship the same God.

You can say one thing about Trump and I could say something completely different and completely false about him but that doesn’t change the fact that we’re still talking about the same person.

 

[BNR32FAN]

It boils down to - Yahweh says to love Him and everyone else while Allah doesn't so they can't be the same deity.

Two magazines can write an article about Trump one article being true and the other article being a bunch of false rumors but both articles are still referring to the same person.

 

[Jipsah]

The Koran view of the Old Testament is not the Jewish Torah. The stories are considerably different (for instance, in the Islamic view, Ishmael is the "child of promise"). There are so many differences, I would argue that Muslims and Jews do not worship the same God.

The Koran view of the Old Testament is not the Jewish Torah.

That's for Jews and Muslims to sort out. Christians worship God as He has revealed Himself as Jesus Christ, Whom both Jews and Muslims reject.

 

[Jipsah]

That doesn’t mean they’re worshipping a different god it just means their theology is flawed.

Agreed.

 

[tturt]

"That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:" Heb 6:18

"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Matt 22

The Koran states the opposite; therefore, Yahweh and Allah are not the same.

 

[RDKirk]

They believe that Allah is the God of Abraham, Issac, & Jacob. There is only One God of Abraham, Issac & Jacob. They also believe in the story of Adam & Eve and the flood and the story of Noah. So they are worshiping the same God in that aspect but they have a lot of false information mixed into their theology.

Let's say I meet a guy at the coffee shop, we chat, and discover we attended the same university. He speaks of an English professor he had as a freshman, a Mr. Smith (very common name). I say, "Hey, I had Mr. Smith for freshman English myself!" Then he begins describing Mr. Smith in great detail, but the Mr. Smith he describes is nothing like the Mr. Smith I knew.

At what point should I conclude that he's not talking about the same person I knew? How much false information does it take?

 

[RDKirk]

You can say one thing about Trump and I could say something completely different and completely false about him but that doesn’t change the fact that we’re still talking about the same person.

At some point we have to question if we're talking about the same Trump.

 

[seashale76]

The Koran view of the Old Testament is not the Jewish Torah. The stories are considerably different (for instance, in the Islamic view, Ishmael is the "child of promise"). There are so many differences, I would argue that Muslims and Jews do not worship the same God.

Eh- Jews think they do because they think Muslims truly qualify as monotheistic. Jews happen to think that Christians are polytheistic idolators though. Orthodox Jews would be allowed to go into a mosque but not a church.