Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

[essentialsaltes]

And neither can much of man's science or what one group of people called science be connected to reality either.

I'm not talking about 'connected to' reality. I'm talking about chunks of reality.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm not talking about 'connected to' reality. I'm talking about chunks of reality.

All these guys are human beings.

 

[Astrid]

You are reading into it whatever tone you want to imagine.

LETS HAVE A VOTE, IS IT JUST MY IMAGINATION

 

[Astrid]

And neither can much of man's science or what one group of people called science be connected to reality either. Man's science can be like a cheap play toy in a kids sand box and those outside the small limited box shake their heads at the presumptuousness of mens's conclusions. They might be smiling and shaking their heads.

And who might these so- wise ones standing outside be?

There is no group of people called science btw.

 

[AV1611VET]

LETS HAVE A VOTE, IS IT JUST MY IMAGINATION

More than just your imagination; but I'll humor you and vote YES.

 

[renniks]

LETS HAVE A VOTE, IS IT JUST MY IMAGINATION

Suddenly this is a democracy?

 

[AV1611VET]

And who might these so- wise ones standing outside be?

Angels, for one.

 

[Astrid]

Suddenly this is a democracy?

Did you look up " gish gallop" yet?


I'm not the only one who has commented on your
use of the gish as a " debate" tactic.

Do you figure it makes no difference how many say
It?

 

[renniks]

Did you look up " gish gallop" yet?


I'm not the only one who has commented on your
use of the gish as a " debate" tactic.

Do you figure it makes no difference how many say
It?

Not on a thread dominated by agnostics and atheists. Not exactly an unbiased segment of the population.

 

[Astrid]

Not on a thread dominated by agnostics and atheists. Not exactly an unbiased segment of the population.

Ah, the ad hom. Another terrif debate tool.

Did you find out what a gish gallop is?

 

[dlamberth]

Jesus took the Golden Rule from the Old Testament, not Confucius.

I'm thinking Jesus found and took the Golden Rule from His own Heart.

 

[Astrid]

I'm thinking Jesus found and took the Golden Rule from His own Heart.

That hardly makes it original

 

[renniks]

Ah, the ad hom. Another terrif debate tool.

Did you find out what a gish gallop is?

It's not an ad hom. On a Christian forum it's obvious that atheists are going to be biased against Christians. And vice versa. And this conversation is getting boringly off topic.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm thinking Jesus found and took the Golden Rule from His own Heart.

No argument there.

My point, though, is that the Golden Rule is a universal meme because God [convicts] mankind with it.

In other words, He impresses it into man's soul.

From an unbeliever's point of view, I suppose he could say it "comes naturally."

 

[AV1611VET]

That hardly makes it original

Actually, it does.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

That "in the beginning" was long before Confucius.

 

[AV1611VET]

On a Christian forum it's obvious that atheists are going to be biased against Christians.

What gives you that idea?

 

[renniks]

If the Churches were preaching Love, you guys would be preaching Love. But you aren't doing that.

And what is love according to Jesus?
One of the biggest fallacies of modern Christianity is that being Christlike means being tolerant of everything.
So if I take a stand against something, say no fault divorce, someone will say, " Oh, you should be more loving .. more like Jesus."
And I always want to say "Have you actually read what Jesus said and how he said it?"
He said, “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
How inconvenient!

 

[Speedwell]

It's not an ad hom. On a Christian forum it's obvious that atheists are going to be biased against Christians. And vice versa. And this conversation is getting boringly off topic.

Right. This is the creation/evolution forum, not the theism/atheism forum.

 

[renniks]

No insult, a simple statement of fact. You have demonstrated your ignorance on multiple occasions and seem to think it is something to be proud of. The best way to change that would be education.

So if I say the same about you , you would not take it as an insult?
I bet.

 

[Astrid]

It's not an ad hom. On a Christian forum it's obvious that atheists are going to be biased against Christians. And vice versa. And this conversation is getting boringly off topic.

I am not biased against Chridtians, don't know anyone who is,
so it's pretty obvious where the bias is.
I do have opinions on dishonesty and tone, regardless of
age, religion, sex or, you know, national origin.

Would you automatically vote against an atheist just coz
he is atheist? Study your golden rule for guidance if need be.

The topic was completel unrelated to religion anyway.

Claiming atheists will be inherently dishonest because they
are atheists is the very definition of ad hom.

If you are going to be "bored" by being corrected, avoid such errors.