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Is the Earth Flat?

Degrees of Earth flatness:

  • It's not flat. It's a giant, spinning spaceball.

    Votes: 90 82.6%
  • It's flat, but all the other planets are giant, spinning spaceballs.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It's flat, and a dome surrounds it.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, a dome surrounds it, and the Earth is the center of the universe.

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • It's flat, domed, and planets/stars are actually illusions/objects in the dome.

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • It's all of the above, and the government is covering it all up at the behest of Satan.

    Votes: 8 7.3%

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So your argument is the schedules are fake? That's it? Apart from delays due to weather or other conditions, I've found the flight schedules to be pretty accurate on the flights I have taken.

As anyone can see on the flat earth map that is most commonly presented there is absolutely no way the flight to Los Angeles from Sydney could possibly take longer than the flight to Santiago. The Santiago flight should be at least double the time based on the map. You can't argue tail winds because the return flights take roughly the same time. You might be able to argue that the map is wrong but there is simply no flat earth map that can work with flights in the southern hemisphere. On a globe there is no issue. Everything fits perfectly.

Still waiting for an explanation why there is a pressure gradient if the atmosphere is sealed inside the firmament.
Obviously, you haven't taken the flight.
 
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Your arguments in this thread strongly remind me of ones made by Robert Sungenis and John Martin, who are part of a small group of Catholic geocentrists. As far as I know, though, they aren't flat Earthers. I wouldn't think that the Church would be too fond of the flat Earth idea.
Non-flat earth geocentrists are still ball earthers and deceive many.
 
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Andhøy is a renegade who doesn't believe in permits or regulations. His previous expedition ended in tragedy with no permits filed and no insurance resulting in a number of countries footing the bill for the rescue operation.. He was taken into custody on his return from Antarctica, so your claim of simple radar and intercept ships obviously wasn't able to stop him getting there.
He was nowhere near the firmament and would never have reached it outside of strict adherence to the Treaty. Have you read the Treaty?
 
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Obviously, you haven't taken the flight.
I have no family or business in South America so have no reason to. Does that mean the flight does not exist in your twisted 'logic'?
 
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I have no family or business in South America so have no reason to. Does that mean the flight does not exist in your twisted 'logic'?
What it means is that you have absolutely zero scientific evidence of such flights.
 
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He was nowhere near the firmament and would never have reached it outside of strict adherence to the Treaty. Have you read the Treaty?
No one visiting Antarctica is anywhere near the firmament. The whole flat earth centred around the North pole is a Eurocentric idea. If Western civilisation had developed in the southern hemisphere then they would have had a map centred around the South pole and would have claimed the firmament was in the Arctic.

Yes, I have read the treaty.
 
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What it means is that you have absolutely zero scientific evidence of such flights.
Scientific evidence is not required. There is plenty of other evidence that is completely valid.
 
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No one visiting Antarctica is anywhere near the firmament. The whole flat earth centred around the North pole is a Eurocentric idea. If Western civilisation had developed in the southern hemisphere then they would have had a map centred around the South pole and would have claimed the firmament was in the Arctic.

Yes, I have read the treaty.
Eurocentric? Are you joking? It's our basic geography.
 
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Scientific evidence is not required. There is plenty of other evidence that is completely valid.
If you do not have scientific evidence (obviously), do you have evidence that would stand up in a court of law?
 
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The earth is a sphere, which is why it is impossible to draw a flat map of it that is to scale. The flat earther’s attempt at a flat map has Australia larger than Asia and South America roughly 4 times larger than North America, because it’s impossible to draw a flat sphere that is to scale.
 
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If you do not have scientific evidence (obviously), do you have evidence that would stand up in a court of law?
How about the fact that it’s dark on one side of the planet while it’s daytime on the other side? That can’t happen on a flat earth.
 
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The earth is a sphere, which is why it is impossible to draw a flat map of it that is to scale. The flat earther’s attempt at a flat map has Australia larger than Asia and South America roughly 4 times larger than North America, because it’s impossible to draw a flat sphere that is to scale.
The map of which you speak is an equidistant azimuthal projection of the sphere.
 
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If you do not have scientific evidence (obviously), do you have evidence that would stand up in a court of law?
The FAA records details on all flights (apart from military and sensitive government flights) which is public information and such records are absolutely admissible in a court of law. Your demand for scientific evidence is completely arbitrary on your part. If I asked you what scientific evidence you had to prove the existence of Nova Scotia to someone who has never been to Canada, what could you provide?
 
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