Is not believing in an eternal hell Heresy?

[MoreCoffee]

I don't see where this passage says that the lost are conscious of torment forever. I do see where John 3:16 in your bible says that the lost will perish and will not have eternal life.

Edit to add, I like the passage you posted, it just doesn't support your doctrine.

Soul sleep and annihilationism are not my beliefs, Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's witnesses hold to those.

 

[Timothew]

Soul sleep and annihilationism are not my beliefs, Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's witnesses hold to those.

Interesting, although completely irrelevant.

Eternal Conscious Torture is not my belief. Muslims, Mormons and Adolf Hitler hold to that.

What really matters to me is what the Bible says. Thanks for turning me to the Book of Wisdom. It also appears to support the doctrine that there is only eternal life for those who are with God and no eternal life for those who oppose God. It's a good read.

Soon they will be corpses without honour, objects of horror among the dead for ever. For he will shatter them and fling them headlong and dumbfounded. He will shake them from their foundations; they will be utterly laid waste, a prey to grief, and their memory will perish.
Wisdom 4:19

 

[MoreCoffee]

Interesting, although completely irrelevant.

Eternal Conscious Torture is not my belief. Muslims, Mormons and Adolf Hitler hold to that.

What really matters to me is what the Bible says. Thanks for turning me to the Book of Wisdom. It also appears to support the doctrine that there is only eternal life for those who are with God and no eternal life for those who oppose God. It's a good read.

Soon they will be corpses without honour, objects of horror among the dead for ever. For he will shatter them and fling them headlong and dumbfounded. He will shake them from their foundations; they will be utterly laid waste, a prey to grief, and their memory will perish.
Wisdom 4:19

I think Adolph Hitler is dead

 

[Timothew]

I think Adolph Hitler is dead

I thought your belief was that the wicked remain alive forever in hell being tormented. I believe that Hitler is dead and will stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ. Could it be that we both believe the same thing? That the wicked will perish and will be no more?

 

[MoreCoffee]

I thought your belief was that the wicked remain alive forever in hell being tormented. I believe that Hitler is dead and will stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ. Could it be that we both believe the same thing? That the wicked will perish and will be no more?

I don't spend my days or nights wondering what happens to wicked people, mostly I hope they will repent and stop being wicked.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I think Adolph Hitler is dead

So is my mom and dad.

John 6:
31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat'..........
49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
[Hebrew 9:3/Revelation 2:17]



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[By Faith Alone]

I think Adolph Hitler is dead

Everyone that ever lived and died, both the saved and unsaved, with the exception of the Lord, are dead until the resurrection.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Everyone that ever lived and died, both the saved and unsaved, with the exception of the Lord, are dead until the resurrection.

Well, maybe with the exception of Enoch, Elijah and Jesus.

Reve 11:
3 And I shall be giving the two witnesses of Me
and they shall be prophesying a thousand two hundred sixty days having been about-cast sackcloths
6 These are having authority to lock the heaven that no shower may be raining[Elijah] the days of the prophecy of them,
and authority they are having upon of the waters to be turning them into blood and to smite the land in every blow as often ever they should willing[Moses].



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[Timothew]

I don't spend my days or nights wondering what happens to wicked people, mostly I hope they will repent and stop being wicked.

Too late. As you said yourself, Hitler is dead. He can't repent of anything now. Because he's dead.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

If it is possible, I do hope that Hitler will realize the errors of his ways and have a change of heart.

 

[By Faith Alone]

Well, maybe with the exception of Enoch, Elijah and Jesus.

Reve 11:
3 And I shall be giving the two witnesses of Me
and they shall be prophesying a thousand two hundred sixty days having been about-cast sackcloths
6 These are having authority to lock the heaven that no shower may be raining[Elijah] the days of the prophecy of them,
and authority they are having upon of the waters to be turning them into blood and to smite the land in every blow as often ever they should willing[Moses].

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My Brother:

I already mentioned the Lord. Hebrews 11 has Enoch as having died. 2 Chronicles 21:12 has Elijah having sent a letter 20 years after he was taken up into the atmosphere and transported elsewhere just as Phillip was with the eunuch.

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

The two witnesses in Revelation are not named and I have no authority to say who they are.

 

[shturt678s]

Everyone that ever lived and died, both the saved and unsaved, with the exception of the Lord, are dead until the resurrection.

Only a head's up, all those from Adam forward are very alive in one of three places, "heaven," "hell," or still alive on earth. Our bodies are only tents housing forever souls, ie, bodies of course are dead awaiting the resurrection.

Old Jack's opinion

btw those alive in hell are not partying anymore....in torments forever and ever.

 

[By Faith Alone]

Only a head's up, all those from Adam forward are very alive in one of three places, "heaven," "hell," or still alive on earth. Our bodies are only tents housing forever souls, ie, bodies of course are dead awaiting the resurrection.

Old Jack's opinion
btw those alive in hell are not partying anymore....in torments forever and ever.

Hello Jack:

Bottom rung of the ladder. Genesis 2:7 says body plus breath=life. Man BECAME a living soul and was not given a soul. One MUST show, in Scriptures, where man was GIVEN a soul for me to believe what you say. There is MUCH more evidence AGAINST than for.

John 3:16 says...PERISH...and not in some other life suffering.


http://www.christianforums.com/t7781557/

 

[BobRyan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUPpmbTOV4

outstanding list of proponents in that first ten minutes.

 

[BobRyan]

Only a head's up, all those from Adam forward are very alive in one of three places, "heaven," "hell," or still alive on earth. Our bodies are only tents housing forever souls, ie, bodies of course are dead awaiting the resurrection.

Old Jack's opinion

btw those alive in hell are not partying anymore....in torments forever and ever.

"Thou shalt not surely die"??

Ezek 18:4 "the soul that sins - it shall die".

Can we all agree on this text being true?

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Soul sleep and annihilationism are not my beliefs, Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's witnesses hold to those.

Interesting response to Timothew.

I can hardly wait to see if he wants to select one of your two choices.

There is a great list identified in the first ten minutes here -- that does not fit your list either.

#134


Oh wait - I see we did not have long to wait for Timothew's response to your two choices.

Interesting, although completely irrelevant.

Eternal Conscious Torture is not my belief. Muslims, Mormons and Adolf Hitler hold to that.

I just knew it would be interesting.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[By Faith Alone]

I repaired my link above

 

[Timothew]

Interesting response to Timothew.

I can hardly wait to see if he wants to select one of your two choices.

There is a great list identified in the first ten minutes here -- that does not fit your list either.

#134


Oh wait - I see we did not have long to wait for Timothew's response to your two choices.

I just knew it would be interesting.

in Christ,

Bob

Thanks.

I worship God in a Baptist Church. In case anyone was wondering.

 

[AmericanChristian91]

Thanks.

I worship God in a Baptist Church. In case anyone was wondering.

Your probably in the minority there in your lack of belief in an eternal hell. How do other Christians there view your belief?

 

[Timothew]

Your probably in the minority there in your lack of belief in an eternal hell. How do other Christians there view your belief?

I believe what the Bible says. That makes me a minority in any group.

How do I view their belief in eternal conscious torment? I believe that they have been misled, like a lot of other Christians, and that they should instead believe the Bible.

Those who know that I believe the Bible pray that I will believe the traditional view instead. And I pray for them, so that God will let them see the truth.