Is liberalism today in the US Godly or evil?

[Postvieww]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

 

[Postvieww]

Liberalism is Evil ~ Better an Uncomfortable Truth than a Pleasant Falsehood

 

[John Caldwell]

When it cones to Democrats and Republicans (the people), only God can judge.

Looking at the platforms I'd have to say it is not true. It appears that the Democrat platform itself is immoral. Looking at the Republican platform I do not see blatant evil.

BUT what is more dangerous? The Democrat platform which openly stands against biblical principles or the Republican platform which seems to exhibit a form of godliness?

I think the latter may be more dangerous. Both seem to be wolves but one is dressed in sheep's clothing.

For the record - I am neither Democrat or Republican. I believe secular politics is something from which to abstain (for me to abstain as that is my conviction... not advocating others do the same as each should follow their conscience).

I know godly Democrats and godly Republicans. Unfortunately politics has served to divide rather than unite to create a better society.

 

[Postvieww]

When it cones to Democrats and Republicans (the people), only God can judge.

Looking at the platforms I'd have to say it is not true. It appears that the Democrat platform itself is immoral. Looking at the Republican platform I do not see blatant evil.

BUT what is more dangerous? The Democrat platform which openly stands against biblical principles or the Republican platform which seems to exhibit a form of godliness?

I think the latter may be more dangerous. Both seem to be wolves but one is dressed in sheep's clothing.

For the record - I am neither Democrat or Republican. I believe secular politics is something from which to abstain (for me to abstain as that is my conviction... not advocating others do the same as each should follow their conscience).

I know godly Democrats and godly Republicans. Unfortunately politics has served to divide rather than unite to create a better society.

Thanks for your opinions. My response is only this, if Christians avoid politics altogether they’re no way but down for both parties. Result then being evil flourishes.

 

[John Caldwell]

Thanks for your opinions. My response is only this, if Christians avoid politics altogether they’re no way but down for both parties. Result then being evil flourishes.

I agree.

This is something that has concerned me.

While I believe I am to abstain from politics I also am grateful God uses Christians in political offices for His glory.

This may seem inconsistent, and maybe it is. But I can only act as my conscience dictates. I would never encourage somebody to abstain from politics if they believe that is where God is leading them. Likewise, I'd never discourage those who abstain because that is God's leading in their life.

 

[Hazelelponi]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

I believe modern liberalism will rain the worst evil on this world and it's inhabitants. I also believe the modern democratic party supports / upholds modern liberalism.

That's not to say that Democrats are evil in and of themselves anymore than any of us are, we simply don't always see the same thing or the same outcome.

 

[Postvieww]

This may seem inconsistent, and maybe it is. But I can only act as my conscience dictates. I would never encourage somebody to abstain from politics if they believe that is where God is leading them. Likewise, I'd never discourage those who abstain because that is God's leading in their life.

I believe you are abosolutly right to follow what you believe is God's direction for your life.

 

[Postvieww]

That's not to say that Democrats are evil in and of themselves anymore than any of us are, we simply don't always see the same thing or the same outcome.

I agree, that is why used the term liberalism instead of liberals. I do however believe many christian "liberals" are deceived on some issues, abortion being just one. I personally believe there is no way to reconcile abortion as promoted by todays liberal activist with scripture. Others disagree that is why we debate issues on forums like this.

 

[Postvieww]

I challenge one who considers themselves to be a Christian liberal to point out the Christian virtue in this video. Especially near the end where it says this event was moved to a nearby "church" to accommodate the large crowds.Unless I am missing something this practice is promoted largely by those with liberal leanings.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

When it cones to Democrats and Republicans (the people), only God can judge.

Amen! I saw a thread once that said if Jesus was here today He would be a Republican. I laughed so hard . When Jesus comes, He will be King. Let us not forget that. He is neither Republican nor Democrat. There are Christian people in both parties. Lord Jesus Himself was considered to be liberal by religious standards of that time. Christians should not,imho, be condemning other believers by whether they are conservative or liberal. The Bible teaches
Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

 

[public hermit]

Liberalism is Evil ~ Better an Uncomfortable Truth than a Pleasant Falsehood

Our we to suppose, based on this well-poisoning article, that the GOP is the city of God?
Poor Augustine; he gets enough legitimate grief, but he wasn't that obtuse.

 

[PloverWing]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

It's a mix, and it depends some on what your ethical priorities are.

In my judgment, the Democratic party tends to be closer to Christian values on a large assortment of civil rights issues. It also tends to be closer to Christian values on issues of how we care for the poor and the foreigners in our midst. These issues are important to me.

Christians differ on the issues of women's rights, LGBTQ rights, and reproductive rights. Depending on your views, you might find yourself in alignment with either party.

Racism is a long-standing problem in the US. Both parties have, at one time or another, used segregation and other forms of racism to appeal to voters. Right now, the Republicans are doing it, but a generation ago the Democrats were doing it. Neither party is free from sin on this point.

Many issues aren't really moral, or they represent conflicting moral goods. Should we spend more money on public parks? on public libraries? How do we balance the pros and cons of regulations on businesses to protect the environment? Issues like these are a matter of careful thought and strategy to weigh competing goods for the community. Faithful Christians could come up with all sorts of opinions on issues like these.

 

[Fantine]

Yesterday's readings were about the poor, and Jesus' preferential option for the poor.
So using that yardstick, the Republican Party is about as far from godliness as can be, and the Democratic party does better.
There is lots of bad mouthing of "secular humanism" but they are basically carrying the load for what Christians aren't doing.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Should we spend more money on public parks? on public libraries?

And, should we spend millions of dollars building rockets for joy rides into space by space elevators.

 

[Desk trauma]

And, should we spend millions of dollars building rockets for joy rides into space by space elevators.

We who? That was the action of a privately held company.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

We who? That was the action of a privately held company.

We the tax payers. Yes this was a private enterprise. But we fund NASA who recently built a rocket costing billions of dollars that, so far, been unable to get off the ground. As for that private company, they and likewise those like them, do not pay their fair share of taxes; and they do not like that the government provide food stamps and Social Security to senior citizens who built the country on minimum wages. This what the scripture has to say about that..
James 5:3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.(NIV)

 

[Desk trauma]

We the tax payers. Yes this was a private enterprise. But we fund NASA who recently built a rocket costing billions of dollars that, so far, been unable to get off the ground.

The artemis project has nothing to do with the joy rides you were lamenting and nasa takes up a whopping 0.48% of the federal budget.

 

[Tom 1]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

Jesus was both liberal and conservative, traditional and radical. The rest of us can only manage to get our heads around one side of the equation. Thinking of one or the other side as wholly good or evil is a bit reductionist, to put it mildly. It's a bit immature too. For a society to function there's a need for recognition of what is ultimately beneficial for that largest number of people, and that means understanding and compromise.

 

[Belk]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

Kind of depends on which Godly principles.

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One thing I am certain of, if God exists he very much wants you to mix politics with religion. That has never in the history of mankind lead to suffering and war.
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[Handmaid for Jesus]

The artemis project has nothing to do with the joy rides you were lamenting and nasa takes up a whopping 0.48% of the federal budget.

So, in your opinion, what is more noble, feeding the poor, or going into outer space?