Democrats Get Lowest Rating From Voters in 35 Years, WSJ Poll Finds

[Jipsah]

The cuts were being made because the Dept.of Ed was seen as being "woke."

Which they were, which was annoying. The main problem was that no one seemed to be able to explain what all those people did for a living.

None of the money saved will wind up in the pockets of any working man or woman.

A grand argument in favor of giving any and all federal agencies carte blanche to shovel money into the furnace as the spirit moves them.

 

[Jipsah]

Again, you're making my point. If people don't understand what a agency does, then they won't understand why it's needed.

Duh!

 

[BCP1928]

Which they were, which was annoying. The main problem was that no one seemed to be able to explain what all those people did for a living.

A grand argument in favor of giving any and all federal agencies carte blanche to shovel money into the furnace as the spirit moves them.

No, it's just my indifferance, If money is being shoveled in to a furnace, why should I care which one?

 

[Jipsah]

Fact-free rebuttals? When I judged HS debate in the 1990's they would lose every time.

I take it you just declared a victory over whoever it was you were responding to.

 

[A2SG]

And that's the kind of mindless sloganeereing that has put the Dems in the tank where they and their radical and largely anti-human view belong.

You do realize, I hope, that the vast majority of Democrats are, in fact, human?

Oh yes, very "strongly written". Trump is "literally Hitler" and a "threat to democracy". They seem to believe repeating rubbish like that often enough will sway to suport their largely idiotic ideas. The last presidential election and the current polls show how well that approach is working.

Yeah, well, the Democratic party has long had the reputation for being able to muck up a free lunch. Clinton losing to Trump in 2016, despite getting more people to vote for her, seems evident to that.

Their best response to their plummeting credibility seems to be is to screech the same tired statist "progressive" shibboleths sophomoric namw calling louder and with more profanity to give it added punch amongst the illiterati. That seems to working about as well as one with a working brain might expect, but, it appears to be the only string the Dems have to their bow these days.

Still, your average Democrat's skill at name calling and profanity are dwarfed by Trump's expertise at it. Just sayin'.

It could also be that a great many people have come to the realization that a lot of the ideas that the Dems expect us to embrace are simply stupid, untrue, or both.

Will Rogers said it best.

-- A2SG, you are, of course, more than free to not be a Democrat if you don't like the party's policies....

 

[A2SG]

It is humorous to hear Democrats talk about the GOP being a "threat to democracy" shortly after tossing out their own duly elected presidential candidate who received 14 million votes in the primary in favor of a candidate who received zero votes.

The Democratic Party did not do that. President Biden himself decided not to run for reelection.

They keep using the word "Democracy," but I am not sure they know what the word actually means. The function of "democracy" in our process is the election, including the primary. They could not destroy democracy any worse than they did. They literally removed the democratic process from their election. This is how communism works. The party chooses the candidates. I think Democratic voters need to take a course in political science, at the 8th-grade level of social studies.

Uh, I do seem to recall that Kamala Harris participated in an election in 2024. Granted, she didn't win the primaries earlier in the process, but those only determine who the party's nominee will be, and they are not the sole determiner of that.

Far as I saw, the democratic process wasn't removed or circumvented at all, in any way. It was different from the norm, sure, but that's about it. No lasting damage to the democratic process resulted. Heck, I can recall one President who was never elected to the office at all, in any way, and the democratic process still managed to survive.

-- A2SG, and just to note, that particular President wasn't a Democrat....

 

[FireDragon76]

I am suggesting that the DNC has primaried younger, more progressive candidates (along with progressive candidates of any age) because of timidity.

They have also prevented Jasmine Crockett from getting a committee chairmanship.

They are dealing with a confrontational party whose leader practicesmalignant slanderous behavior with everyone who disagrees with him and whose command of the "facts" are non-existent--not that he doesn't promise the world and then mail it special delivery to billionaires.

Timidity won't work. I had no idea that there were so many WWF fans in the US who were looking for a WWF-style president (with little else to recommend him) and it will be necessary to subdue him by beating him at his own game.

New ideas, but a new assertive, outspoken style that will show unapologetically how cowardly and puppet-like the behavior of Republican members of Congress are.

After all, what is worse than a dictator? Answer: A dictator with 271 obsequiously compliant party members--218 in the House and 53 in the Senate.

The DNC needs to stop courting the managerial elites, Wall Street investors, and token micro-identities, to the exclusion of working class people. The coalition can't win elections.

But that would mean giving up the grifter ways of the party elites, who are more than happy to take donations, keep losing, and walk away smug that "they were the adults in the room".

 

[Say it aint so]

It is humorous to hear Democrats talk about the GOP being a "threat to democracy" shortly after tossing out their own duly elected presidential candidate who received 14 million votes in the primary in favor of a candidate who received zero votes. They keep using the word "Democracy," but I am not sure they know what the word actually means. The function of "democracy" in our process is the election, including the primary. They could not destroy democracy any worse than they did. They literally removed the democratic process from their election. This is how communism works. The party chooses the candidates. I think Democratic voters need to take a course in political science, at the 8th-grade level of social studies.

I think that candidate stepped out and nor is that act a threat to democracy. You want to try again?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I have a bridge, a Russian collusion conspiracy, and a "Biden dropped out willingly" story to sell you guys!
Maybe it was bigfoot who talked him out of it!

 

[ozso]

I think that candidate stepped out and nor is that act a threat to democracy. You want to try again?

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer took charge of replacing Biden with Harris, because they decided that Biden would lose. They completely altered the election process in the middle of the campaign. Totally changed the playing field from Biden Harris to Harris Walz.

If it had been Biden's decision not to run, he would have declined reelection like LBJ did. Johnson stated, "I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your president."

 

[BCP1928]

They appear to be inseparable amongst the Democrats.

No, that's just something you would like to convince us of.

 

[BCP1928]

It is humorous to hear Democrats talk about the GOP being a "threat to democracy" shortly after tossing out their own duly elected presidential candidate who received 14 million votes in the primary in favor of a candidate who received zero votes. They keep using the word "Democracy," but I am not sure they know what the word actually means. The function of "democracy" in our process is the election, including the primary. They could not destroy democracy any worse than they did. They literally removed the democratic process from their election. This is how communism works. The party chooses the candidates. I think Democratic voters need to take a course in political science, at the 8th-grade level of social studies.

Primaries are not constitutional elections nor are they legally required. Political parties are free to select candidates for nomination in any way they wish. Within living memory (including mine) candidates were not selected by primary--the first presidential election I voted in, neither candidate was selected by primaries. Perhaps you are the one who needs to retake 8th grade social studies.

 

[rjs330]

No, that's just something you would like to convince us of.

You'll have to convince us its not. We know of course that Democrats are not monolithic as are Republicans. However it IS Democrats who have pushed for the stuff in law and policy and STILL ARE in great numbers in the public and in government and those seeking to be in government. So you will need to prove to us the party as a whole can actually separate these out. Cause so far it doesn't seem they can.

 

[BCP1928]

You'll have to convince us its not. We know of course that Democrats are not monolithic as are Republicans. However it IS Democrats who have pushed for the stuff in law and policy and STILL ARE in great numbers in the public and in government and those seeking to be in government. So you will need to prove to us the party as a whole can actually separate these out. Cause so far it doesn't seem they can.

I don't know that they can, I just see that as the only way forward for them and I do see some hopeful signs. But they don't need to prove it to you, they need to prove it to the labor swing vote you got last time.

 

[Fantine]

I have a bridge, a Russian collusion conspiracy, and a "Biden dropped out willingly" story to sell you guys!
Maybe it was bigfoot who talked him out of it!

In today's administration, rife with egos, narcissism and greed, where the leader puts personal enrichment first, the idea that Biden, living his oath of office, would actually put the country first is unbelievable.
We exchanged a statesman for a salesman of cheesy merchandise and crypto.
Your decision is costing me and others. We need a head of state not a huckster.

 

[Say it aint so]

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer took charge of replacing Biden with Harris, because they decided that Biden would lose. They completely altered the election process in the middle of the campaign. Totally changed the playing field from Biden Harris to Harris Walz.

If it had been Biden's decision not to run, he would have declined reelection like LBJ did. Johnson stated, "I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your president."

They can want Biden to step out, but it's ultimately up to Biden.

 

[ozso]

They can want Biden to step out, but it's ultimately up to Biden.

I think he was either coursed or manipulated into it.

 

[Say it aint so]

I think he was either coursed or manipulated into it.

Or they could have just had him watch his debate performance.

 

[ozso]

Or they could have just had him watch his debate performance.

Funny how that did the trick, despite all of the other times it was clear he had a problem. Whatever the scenario, it should have taken place in the beginning instead of three quarters of the way into the campaign.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Primaries are not constitutional elections nor are they legally required. Political parties are free to select candidates for nomination in any way they wish. Within living memory (including mine) candidates were not selected by primary--the first presidential election I voted in, neither candidate was selected by primaries. Perhaps you are the one who needs to retake 8th grade social studies.

And democracy gasps for a last breath as we rationalize it away.... Men can have babies and then beat women in sporting events. Words have no meaning any longer. Democracy is the least of our worries.