Is liberalism today in the US Godly or evil?

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Kind of depends on which Godly principles.

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One thing I am certain of, if God exists he very much wants you to mix politics with religion. That has never in the history of mankind lead to suffering and war.
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Have you noticed that Lord Jesus did not interfere with the government of Rome? That is why Pilate could not find any fault in Him at all.

 

[public hermit]

As for that private company, they and likewise those like them, do not pay their fair share of taxes; and they do not like that the government provide food stamps and Social Security to senior citizens who built the country on minimum wages

You can't tax the rich and then allow the poor to keep dragging everyone down with their laziness. Those billionaires worked hard for their space toys. What do the poor do? Nothing. If they worked hard they could have a rocket, too. Like it says in the Bible: God helps those who help themselves. Zerubbabel 2:6

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

You can't tax the rich and then allow the poor to keep dragging everyone down with their laziness.

Who says the poor are lazy but the rich and Republican? I remember the former Papa John's pizza CEO calling people worthless eaters. Those worthless eaters were buying his pizzas.

Like it says in the Bible: God helps those who help themselves. Zerubbabel 2:6

That "book" is not in the Bible canon so, I don't know what you are reading.

 

[Desk trauma]

So, in your opinion, what is more noble, feeding the poor, or going into outer space?

Investing in space exploration. It will benefit us as a country and a species more to fund NASA than have its budget disappear in larger welfare programs such as snap.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Investing in space exploration. It will benefit us as a country and a species more to fund NASA than have its budget disappear in larger welfare programs such as snap.

I note your opinion.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Yesterday's readings were about the poor, and Jesus' preferential option for the poor.
So using that yardstick, the Republican Party is about as far from godliness as can be, and the Democratic party does better.
There is lots of bad mouthing of "secular humanism" but they are basically carrying the load for what Christians aren't doing.

I don't see either party as being godly. The Republican Party does not differ much from the Democratic Party in attempting to be of true benefit to the poor. Additionally, being considered to be godly requires much more than being of worldly benefit to the poor. What does the Democratic Party actually offer the poor other than lip service? How has secular humanism benefitted the poor? I see many people profiting from their supposed advocacy for the poor but none of the poor actually receiving anything beneficial from that advocacy. What load are you suggesting that Christians are not carrying that secular humanists are taking up? Secular humanists seem to me to be about encouraging the poor to be like the rich and place their trust in money and what money can buy. Christians ought to be about encouraging both the rich and the poor to abandon their trust in money and what it can buy and trust instead in Christ and the fruits of the Spirit.

 

[Desk trauma]

I note your opinion.

Ah yes, new version of bless your heart.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Yesterday's readings were about the poor, and Jesus' preferential option for the poor.
So using that yardstick, the Republican Party is about as far from godliness as can be, and the Democratic party does better.
There is lots of bad mouthing of "secular humanism" but they are basically carrying the load for what Christians aren't doing.

We have seen how liberals take care of the poor in Martha's Vinyard.

 

[DaisyDay]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

There is so much that is awful in your thread. You are literally demonizing people who you disagree with. You are spreading hate and division. For shame.

Then there are the technical points - you never define what you mean by "liberalism" but nevertheless, conflate it with one particular political party, the party you oppose.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

We have seen how liberals take care of the poor in Martha's Vinyard.

You mean how they fed them and gave them a place to stay until more appropriate accommodations could be arranged? I mean, you do realize that neither Florida or Texas housed or cared for these people, right? Texans did not welcome them into their private homes either. Why is it you guys expect that of "liberals?" Because "the Left" doesn't demonize them? Is treating people humanely just a foreign concept to you guys?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

You mean how they fed them and gave them a place to stay until more appropriate accommodations could be arranged? I mean, you do realize that neither Florida or Texas housed or cared for these people, right? Texans did not welcome into their private homes either. Why is it you guys expect that of "liberals?" Because "the Left" doesn't demonize them? Is treating people humanely just a foreign concept to you guys?

Who fed them and gave them a place to stay? The national guard? Where were the liberals flocking to welcome them into their vacation homes? Why were they quickly moved out? "Why do we expect that from liberals?"! I don't even think that question deserves an answer.

 

[Fantine]

I don't see either party as being godly. The Republican Party does not differ much from the Democratic Party in attempting to be of true benefit to the poor. Additionally, being considered to be godly requires much more than being of worldly benefit to the poor. What does the Democratic Party actually offer the poor other than lip service? How has secular humanism benefitted the poor? I see many people profiting from their supposed advocacy for the poor but none of the poor actually receiving anything beneficial from that advocacy. What load are you suggesting that Christians are not carrying that secular humanists are taking up? Secular humanists seem to me to be about encouraging the poor to be like the rich and place their trust in money and what money can buy. Christians ought to be about encouraging both the rich and the poor to abandon their trust in money and what it can buy and trust instead in Christ and the fruits of the Spirit.

Children's poverty cut in half for one year (not enough Senate votes to renew.)
Health care subsidies continued, protecting people's care.
Prescription relief.
Student loan forgiveness.
Unemployment low.
Inflation a global problem but we are working for reduction.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Who fed them and gave them a place to stay? The national guard? Where were the liberals flocking to welcome them into their vacation homes? Why were they quickly moved out?

This is what I'm talking about. Why would you expect "liberals" to do that when the "conservatives" of Texas or Florida don't? Just because "liberals" want them treated like human beings? Why is it that you expect that of "liberals" but not of "conservatives?" Why is that appropriate? "Liberals" aren't shipping them into people's private homes even at the border.

They were moved out because caring for them in that community was less feasible than where they were moved to. There were better resources. The community they were (possibly illegally) shipped to does not receive federal funds for dealing with migrants. Texas and Florida do.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

This is what I'm talking about. Why would you expect "liberals" to do that when the "conservatives" of Texas or Florida don't?

Simple, it isn't conservatives who are welcoming these "migrants" to walk freely into our country. It is the liberals who are. I don't want them here, you do. So why don't you take care of them? How many migrants are you housing and feeding? None, because you except someone else to do it for you.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I have read some forum members on other threads propose that the Democrats are more in line with Godly principal’s than Republicans. Is that really true? Your thoughts!

I'm not a Democrat, but I'm probably a "liberal" as mentioned in the title. (I might also be a progressive, but definitely not a "leftist" or a "socialist" If anyone thinks these are all the same, don't bother replying.)

The text refers to "godly" and title refers to "evil". As an atheist, I don't care if anyone is "godly" or "ungodly". These terms are meaningless to me. You guys can label an one either way, I don't care. If "evil" means "fundamentally bad" (rather than against the rules of a god) then, no I don't think the Democrats are "evil" nor are Republicans.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Simple, it isn't conservatives who are welcoming these "migrants" to walk freely into our country. It is the liberals who are. I don't want them here, you do. So why don't you take care of them? How many migrants are you housing and feeding? None, because you except someone else to do it for you.

What a vapid misrepresentation.

This is the difference between "conservatives" and "liberals", folks.

"Liberals" just want them treated like human beings.

"Conservatives" don't want them at all and don't care about them.

This is the answer to the thread about "Liberalism" being "Godly or Evil."

Thank you for your lucid commentary.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Ah yes, new version of bless your heart.

I think it might be the secular (non-Southern) version.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

What a vapid misrepresentation.

This is the difference between "conservatives" and "liberals", folks.

"Liberals" just want them treated like human beings.

"Conservatives" don't want them at all and don't care about them.

This is the answer to the thread someone posted earlier about "Liberalism" being "Godly or Evil."

Thank you for your lucid commentary.

Again, how many "migrants" are you personally treating by housing and feeding them?

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Again, how many "migrants" are you personally treating by housing and feeding them?

Why is it that you think that's a gotcha question? How many Christian homeless people who are actual citizens are you housing? Aren't you guys supposed to look after each other? Maybe you support a church or charity and think that's enough. Why isn't it enough that I do the same AND think they should be treated humanely and not demonized without reaching the absolute pennacle of charity?

The point is those "migrants" the Right demonizes so much are people and the Left just thinks they should be treated as such. Not political pawns. Not "criminals" because they "broke a law" that's equivalent to a traffic ticket, and most didn't break a law at all since they are here under our asylum laws and are entitled to a fair hearing and care while they await one.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

How many Christian homeless people who are actual citizens are you housing?

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