Is it possible we have been lied to for years?

[Oompa Loompa]

 

[Always in His Presence]

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I’ve thought for years, if you take out viewership that includes airports and hotel lobbies, their numbers would be minuscule.

The public is just not believing their lies anymore and they are losing viewership and their very companies because of their radical left stance.

 

[Zaha Torte]

I’ve thought for years, if you take out viewership that includes airports and hotel lobbies, their numbers would be minuscule.

The public is just not believing their lies anymore and they are losing viewership and their very companies because of their radical left stance.

It's not just the lies - but they have proven time and time again how ineffectual they are.

Even now - you'd think that their viewership would skyrocket - because they just became the "resistance" again.

Yet watching them say and do so many things against Trump - that all amounted to nothing - show how they have zero effect.

 

[SimplyMe]

The structure of the family does not change the role of the man at all.

And if the structure is completely different - can it still be considered a "family"?

It is a bit ironic hearing a Mormon questioning, "if the structure is completely different - can it still be considered a "family"?" Yes, I'm sure you'll tell me that polygamy is no longer practiced but it doesn't change the fact that the teachings are the same as always, complete with men often being married (sealed) to another wife after the death of a wife (and that can happen more than once), so that he will have multiple wives in the afterlife (in the Celestial Kingdom).

 

[Bradskii]

No one said anything about you making decisions for them. We were talking about you doing what was best for them.

Which means that I will be making the decisions for them. Unless you now think that I should do what they want? Or we discuss it together so we reach a mutually agreed decision? It's one of those three. They're the only options. And you are determined to push the first.

This has not been the topic of this discussion.

It's exactly the topic. You say that I can do what I want in regard to the women in my life simply if I think it's for their own good. That is completely rejected.

Truth has no expiration date, and I have been commissioned to share it wherever I go.

It has to be the truth to start with. It's an attitude that was prevalent in certain societies in biblical times, but what might have seemed correct then was discovered to be not the case quite a long time ago.

 

[Zaha Torte]

It is a bit ironic hearing a Mormon questioning, "if the structure is completely different - can it still be considered a "family"?" Yes, I'm sure you'll tell me that polygamy is no longer practiced but it doesn't change the fact that the teachings are the same as always, complete with men often being married (sealed) to another wife after the death of a wife (and that can happen more than once), so that he will have multiple wives in the afterlife (in the Celestial Kingdom).

The structure is exactly the same.

Still one man and one woman.

The man being married to other women does not change the structure of each marriage.

Each individual marriage is still one man and one woman.

The women do not marry each other.

We prefer to be called Latter-day Saints because that has always been what we are.

 

[Bradskii]

I want a government to look out for my interests above the interests of other nations peoples. I mean, that's what we pay taxes for.

From here: What every American should know about US foreign aid

'Opinion polls consistently report that Americans believe foreign aid is in the range of 25 percent of the federal budget. When asked how much it should be, they say about 10 percent. In fact, at $39.2 billion for fiscal year 2019, foreign assistance is less than 1 percent of the federal budget.'

You guys spend much on your pets as you do on foreign aid. From here: People are splurging on their pets like never before.

'There is little, it seems, that people won’t do for their pets. Americans spent $US186 billion on them last year, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, covering everything from food and vet visits to toys and grooming. That is more than they spent on childcare.'

In other words...gimme a break.

We, the women, want to be safe jogging in broad daylight near a university etc etc.

Luckily for you crime has been falling for many years.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Which means that I will be making the decisions for them.

No - it means that you will do what is best for them - whether they want it or not.

Why do you interpret that to mean that you would be making their decisions for them?

Unless you now think that I should do what they want?

Is it what is best for them?

Or we discuss it together so we reach a mutually agreed decision?

As long as they make the choice that is best for them.

It's one of those three. They're the only options. And you are determined to push the first.

Those are not the only three options.

The one that I would pick is convincing them to do what is best for them - whether they like it or not.

So - if they happen to choose the Bear over the Man - then I would pick them up kicking and screaming and get them away from that Bear.

Because they chose wrong.

It's exactly the topic. You say that I can do what I want in regard to the women in my life simply if I think it's for their own good. That is completely rejected.

You are free to do what you want - just as they are free to do as they want.

If you do as you should - the women in your life should do as you want - because that is what is best for them.

It has to be the truth to start with.

It is.

It's an attitude that was prevalent in certain societies in biblical times, but what might have seemed correct then was discovered to be not the case quite a long time ago.

I think our society today - with a focus on the current dating culture - is proof positive that we got something wrong along the way.

Feminism is evil.

 

[Bradskii]

No - it means that you will do what is best for them - whether they want it or not.

Then it's a complete waste of everyone's time me asking them what they want. Because I am going to do what I think is best whatever they say.

 

[Bradskii]

As long as they make the choice that is best for them.

You mean as long as I decide what's best for them. They don't have any choice in the matter. They can only do what I think is best.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It's not just the lies - but they have proven time and time again how ineffectual they are.

Even now - you'd think that their viewership would skyrocket - because they just became the "resistance" again.

Yet watching them say and do so many things against Trump - that all amounted to nothing - show how they have zero effect.

I think their rating will go up after Trump gets into office.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Then it's a complete waste of everyone's time me asking them what they want. Because I am going to do what I think is best whatever they say.

If you don't ask them what they want - how do you know if they are going to make the best choice or not?

If you don't talk to you wife and children - how would you even come to know what options, they have to choose from?

I think you are just trying to best to paint traditional or God-oriented roles in the most negative light.

I don't know why you want to do this exactly - but it is apparent.

 

[Zaha Torte]

You mean as long as I decide what's best for them. They don't have any choice in the matter. They can only do what I think is best.

How would you go about enforcing that unrighteous dominion?

 

[Zaha Torte]

I think their rating will go up after Trump gets into office.

Maybe. I honestly do hope that happens. I want them to be redeemed.

 

[durangodawood]

The structure is exactly the same.

Still one man and one woman.

The man being married to other women does not change the structure of each marriage.

Each individual marriage is still one man and one woman.

The women do not marry each other.

We prefer to be called Latter-day Saints because that has always been what we are.

Im thinking that marriage would look a lot different if one was in a few of them at the same time. Call it "structure" or not, but its a different idea of marriage.

 

[Bradskii]

How would you go about enforcing that unrighteous dominion?

I can't continue this conversation. You are making no sense to me whatsoever.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Im thinking that marriage would look a lot different if one was in a few of them at the same time. Call it "structure" or not, but its a different idea of marriage.

A marriage is a covenant or contract between a man and woman. How is it different?

Are you saying that if a person enters into more than one business contract - that makes the idea of business and/or contracts different somehow?

 

[Zaha Torte]

I can't continue this conversation. You are making no sense to me whatsoever.

I think that is because you are laden with all kinds of preconceived notions and personal hang ups that have nothing to do with what I have said.

 

[Always in His Presence]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-cnn-ceo-chris-licht-viewers-have-lost-trust-in-legacy-media-204536137.html

The facts are that people have lost trust in legacy media,” Licht added. The media veteran was the head honcho at CNN from May 2022 to June 2023.

How to fix the issue is the multibillion-dollar question facing the nation’s most powerful news executives, as growing distrust is one of several factors contributing to the industry’s steady ratings decline.

 

[durangodawood]

A marriage is a covenant or contract between a man and woman. How is it different?

Are you saying that if a person enters into more than one business contract - that makes the idea of business and/or contracts different somehow?

If a business picks up too many contracts for one person to handle, you hire more, and you can take a step back from personally running each contract. Its utterly different from a marriage and the comparison is frankly bizarre to me.

A marriage is a lived partnership between two people. If one of those two has to divide their time up between multiple partners (and their partners children) you cant hire a crew to make up for the lost intimacy as your time and attention is split into halves or quarters.