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Is it possible we have been lied to for years?

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So you choose to slander us unstead.
No. Read more carefully. I am referring to his supporters WHO ALREADY FEEL THAT WAY.

Stop claiming slander if youre not reading properly.
He protects all of us...
When you say "us" you don't include "them". And you're not paying attention if you think "us" means all Americans.


Quit slandering his voters.
Improve your reading skills.

I know most of his supporters aren't racist women haters.
 
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No. Read more carefully. I am referring to his supporters WHO ALREADY FEEL THAT WAY.

Stop claiming slander if youre not reading properly.

When you say "us" you don't include "them". And you're not paying attention if you think "us" means all Americans.
Yep all Americans
Improve your reading skills.

I know most of his supporters aren't racist women haters.
Just like Trump said, he is going to protect all women whether they want it or not....
 
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...he is going to protect all women whether they want it or not....
They're obviously not the type of people to decide what's best for them.

I'm not really sure what the response from my wife or my daughter would be if I said that I'll be doing what's best for both families whether you like it or not. But it wouldn't be good. But if I said 'I'm going to do what's best for you, whether you like it or not', then the reaction would be off the Richter scale.
 
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Some women do, know better.
We actually have 2 problems here.

One is the implication that they are too delicate and unworldly to know what's best for them. And two is that they do know and Trump is going to do what he wants for them even if they don't like it.
 
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They're obviously not the type of people to decide what's best for them.

I'm not really sure what the response from my wife or my daughter would be if I said that I'll be doing what's best for both families whether you like it or not. But it wouldn't be good. But if I said 'I'm going to do what's best for you, whether you like it or not', then the reaction would be off the Richter scale.
That is the role of a husband and father though.
 
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That is the role of a husband and father though.
That might be the role of your father and your husband, but please don't think that it automatically applies to anyone else. We've kinda moved on from there.
 
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That's not my experience.
And since there will probably be responses of "well, that's your problem", note that this is not just an issue laypeople have with his speech patterns, but professionals also find it difficult to parse meaning from his words :


Hence you get phrases like "it was not immediately obvious what the President meant" or "The syntax errors have been deliberately left in". And not just in translations but in actual quotes of the guy's talks.
 
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No.it wasn't. We could go through the media over and over again and PROVE, they made the claims against TRUMP and his voters. You know good and well this is true. I listed a whole list of examples. How many pieces of evidence do you need?

Donald Trump believes he has license to make decisions about women, for women, in spite of women. Whether they like it or not. In this election, Trump’s misogyny has been magnified.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4970469-trump-misogyny-dangerous-women/

Despite his naked racism and misogyny and attacks on his political opponents, the American people have chosen to send him back to the White House.

MSN

So can we please just lay this to rest?
And just exactly how is Trump making decisions for women when those decisions are in the hands of individual states?
 
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That's not my experience.

When trump mocked the handicapped reporter who interviewed him we were told he didn't know he looked like that.

When Trump sided with putin over his own security forces we were told "fbi's crooked. Oh well"

When Trump said grab them by the stuff, we were told that because it was locker room talk it was appropriate to say.

When Trump talked about going backstage as 15yr old beauty contestants changed we were told he owns them so of course he would. He gets introduced to the women during the 3 minute window when they are all changing.....no way to work around that for their own comfort and dignity right?

When Trump took out a sharpie and redrew the hurricane projection we were told that's actually what was predicted. It was not.

When Trump suggested that "dissinfectant knocks it out in one minute...we can do something with injection inside or like a cleaning" we were told it was a brilliant response.

And these are only the shocking ones.

His supporters chose to defend smaller versions of these kinds of things several times a week during his presidency.
So why is it our fault for making you one of his supporters while we were trying to hold him to account for saying these things? Is that really how much control the left political wing has over a political opponent?
This is one of the main reasons Trump is going back to the White House. MANY liberals never learn. Just spewing the same old hate filled rhetoric will not work with thinking Americans. This election proved that.
 
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We actually have 2 problems here.

One is the implication that they are too delicate and unworldly to know what's best for them. And two is that they do know and Trump is going to do what he wants for them even if they don't like it.
What exactly is Trump going to do for women against their wishes. I believe this baby killing issue is in states hands not Trumps!
 
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This is one of the main reasons Trump is going back to the White House. MANY liberals never learn. Just spewing the same old hate filled rhetoric will not work with thinking Americans. This election proved that.
Talking about what Trump has done the past and how supporters tried to excuse it is hate filled rhetoric now?
 
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Talking about what Trump has done the past and how supporters tried to excuse it is hate filled rhetoric now?
Call it what you wish. The fact is voters overwhelmingly rejected it. If liberals keep it up they probably will lose in 2 years as well.
 
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And that doesn't mention his policy goals of ending, for example, birthright citizenship.
Yeah, I read something about that this morning:


Apparently, Trump would like to issue an executive order that identifies children who were born in the US from illegal alien parents as non-citizens. Seems unconstitutional to me.
 
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They're obviously not the type of people to decide what's best for them.

I'm not really sure what the response from my wife or my daughter would be if I said that I'll be doing what's best for both families whether you like it or not. But it wouldn't be good. But if I said 'I'm going to do what's best for you, whether you like it or not', then the reaction would be off the Richter scale.
And then you installed an alarm system and camera's on both houses.

Let's keep it in context of what the President was saying shall we. He was addressing protecting them.
 
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That might be the role of your father and your husband, but please don't think that it automatically applies to anyone else. We've kinda moved on from there.
Truth doesn't change. Men and women are different. They bring different things to the table.

You are saying that you wouldn't pull your daughter from the fire - even if that was not what she wanted? Really?

In our attempts to "move on" - we tend to miss the target.
 
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We are told:

Trump hates immigrants
But
Just appointed an immigrant from South Africa and the son of immigrants to a high level advisors position.

Trump hates Gays
but
Was the first President in the history of the US to appoint and openly gay man to his cabinet
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...trump-names-the-first-openly-gay-person-to-a/

Trump hates Jews
but
his daughter, son in law and grand children are Jewish and the Jewish nation express their gratitude by renaming the Golan Heights after him

Trump hates woman
but
Just named the first woman in the history of the US as his Chief of Staff

Trump only like rich white men -

But his cabinet consists of

Marco Rubio - Cuban decent
Robert Kennedy - Former Democratic politician
Kristi Noem - woman
Lee Zeldin - Jewish
Tulsi Gabbard - woman - former Democratic Politician
Elsie Stefanic - woman
Susie Wiles - woman
Trump loves all!

He's rather gracious and grandfatherly.

Even those who personally know him call him very generous.

I'm proud of our nation for voting him in!
 
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