Is it possible we have been lied to for years?

[Always in His Presence]

No. It's just that most people need Trump supporters to translate his words and his actions because most English speakers can't fathom the depth of idiocy he is willing to say outloud or do.

That is incredibly biased, and just not right - and the self righteous attitude is part of why I became a Trump supporter.

 

[rjs330]

I'm suggesting that Trump may not be those things

How generous of you.

but it can't be argued that he is PANDERING to that.

Why would he do that?

He's said a lot of terrible things that his supporters just choose to ignore though....and then get angry at people who try to hold him responsible for what he said.

So he's not those things, but he pandering to his followers who are ignoring what he's says. Are you confused? Who's he pandering to if it's not his followers?

Why would we care what he says if he doesn't mean them?

I'm really not sure what you'd want to "lay to rest". I'd posit you'll need Trump to stop saying questionable things if you don't want people to comment on what trump is saying.

Let's lay to rest the idea that those on the left don't think Trump hates women, is a racist and hates lgbtq people. Along with his supporters.

 

[Aaron112]

What's worse than a man who lies 32,000 times in four years? Hundreds of men and women who lie hundreds of thousands of times during the same time period.

COOL

 

[Aaron112]

My friend - it is posters like you that made me a Trump supporter.

COOL AGAIN

Yet simply trust the Creator (I think you do), and do what is good and right every day. (regardless of who is in power politically or religiously or financially, etc )

 

[rambot]

That is incredibly biased, and just not right.

That's not my experience.

When trump mocked the handicapped reporter who interviewed him we were told he didn't know he looked like that.

When Trump sided with putin over his own security forces we were told "fbi's crooked. Oh well"

When Trump said grab them by the stuff, we were told that because it was locker room talk it was appropriate to say.

When Trump talked about going backstage as 15yr old beauty contestants changed we were told he owns them so of course he would. He gets introduced to the women during the 3 minute window when they are all changing.....no way to work around that for their own comfort and dignity right?

When Trump took out a sharpie and redrew the hurricane projection we were told that's actually what was predicted. It was not.

When Trump suggested that "dissinfectant knocks it out in one minute...we can do something with injection inside or like a cleaning" we were told it was a brilliant response.

And these are only the shocking ones.

His supporters chose to defend smaller versions of these kinds of things several times a week during his presidency.
So why is it our fault for making you one of his supporters while we were trying to hold him to account for saying these things? Is that really how much control the left political wing has over a political opponent?

 

[rambot]

Why would he do that?

I have absolutely no idea. But he is.

So he's not those things, but he pandering to his followers who are ignoring what he's says.

No. There are people who get enflamed by the questionable things he says and love it. Those are people who he panders to. Then there are those who excuse what he's saying to the people he's pandering to.

Let's lay to rest the idea that those on the left don't think Trump hates women, is a racist and hates lgbtq people. Along with his supporters.

oh i think there are many on thr left who do think that. I used to be more sure about it. But Im becoming a bit more favorable to my current understanding because it fits a possible npd diagnosis better.

 

[rjs330]

I have absolutely no idea. But he is.

No idea huh.

No. There are people who get enflamed by the questionable things he says and love it.

And just want percentage of Trump voters would that be? You don't have to be exact. But what's your estimation? You think rhey wouldn't vote for him or supplet him if he didn't?

Then there are those who excuse what he's saying to the people he's pandering to.

Perhaps they are just sharing a different point of view. We've all seen how overly outraged the left gets regarding the man.

But Im becoming a bit more favorable to my current understanding because it fits a possible npd diagnosis better.

I think its more a TDS diagnosis for far too many on the left.

Your idea definitely fits the Trump supporters are deplorables and garbage idea. A bit if an elitist attitude if you ask me. Which of course you didn't.

 

[rambot]

No idea huh.

1. Nope.
2. I don't need to have one because.
3. It's true.

And just want percentage of Trump voters would that be? You don't have to be exact. But what's your estimation? You think rhey wouldn't vote for him or supplet him if he didn't?

1. I honestly cannot guess.

Perhaps they are just sharing a different point of view.

You can justify his behaviour any way you want but that doesnt mean it is done well, or with good counter arguments. My argument had been though that when you do that it is not MY fault rhat you like that person.

We've all seen how overly outraged the left gets regarding the man.

Just by what he says and does.

I think its more a TDS diagnosis for far too many on the left.

Ahh yes. "I know you are but what am I?" Look how productive this got. I "insult" Trump. You "insult" me.

Your idea definitely fits the Trump supporters are deplorables and garbage idea.

Nope. Just that they chose not to hold Trump to account for that behaviour. Why would that make them deplorable?

A pretty elitist attitude.

Always get a kick out of a trump supporter calling ME elitist.

 

[Zaha Torte]

The hope and maybe expectation is that this is politics as usual - lies not just in our life times, but since before world war I, from politics, medicine, science.... this is normal people daily - lies.

This is not politics as usual.

 

[Zaha Torte]

No. It's just that most people need Trump supporters to translate his words and his actions because most English speakers can't fathom the depth of idiocy he is willing to say outloud or do.

His supporters always see the genius in what he says and his detractors don't.

Its more common sense than idiocy or genius. Something most people lack today.

 

[Always in His Presence]

When trump mocked the handicapped reporter who interviewed him we were told he didn't know he looked like that.

Please top spreading lies - this has been long debunked - repeating it does not suddenly make it true.

His supporters chose to defend smaller versions of these kinds of things several times a week during his presidency.
So why is it our fault for making you one of his supporters while we were trying to hold him to account for saying these things? Is that really how much control the left political wing has over a political opponent?

When your argument starts with something debunked multiple times over the last seven years - it gives an excellent example of what I am referring to.

I'm sorry my observations and reality bothers you so very much - but I have stated numerous times that I was not a Trump supporter until it came down to him and Hillary. I have also stated many times that no one in the history of earth is wrong about virtually everything. It is the over demonization of the man, ignoring every good point that made me a supporter.

One of many examples of what I am referring to:

There is where we differ.

1,260 different actions and there are more coming, yet there he is - basically unfettered. You can cry criminal only so many times without getting a conviction without loosing credibility.

 

[rambot]

Please top spreading lies - this has been long debunked - repeating it does not suddenly make it true.

"He mocks handicapped people all the time. He was mocking him" is NOT debunking anything.

When your argument starts with something debunked multiple times over the last seven years - it gives an excellent example of what I am referring to.

That is not debunked as stated above. But again you can ignore my measles 5 other examples.

I'm sorry my observations and reality bothers you so very much - but I have stated numerous times that I was not a Trump supporter until it came down to him and Hillary.

I know.

I have also stated many times that no one in the history of earth is wrong about virtually everything.

I have never argued he is always wrong. This is nothing but a straw man to avoid culpability for anything.

Frankly I can't remember many/any times you've thought he's wrong.

It is the over demonization of the man, ignoring every good point that made me a supporter.

I know. The power of the Left Wing is just too much to overcome.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The power of the Left Wing is just too much to overcome.

Not at all - that is why they failed system wide.

 

[rjs330]

I have absolutely no idea. But he is.

If you really believe that then you have to have an idea. You never believe something without any thought as to why you believe it. Why won't you just tell us your reasoning?

. Nope.
2. I don't need to have one because.
3. It's true.

I honestly cannot guess.

Then why are you so concerned about? I mean it could only be .00000000000000000000000001% so what if it's only that many?

You can justify his behaviour any way you want but that doesnt mean it is done well, or with good counter arguments.

That's merely an opinion. Others have a different opinion. Do you believe your opinion is better that anyone else's?

My argument had been though that when you do that it is not MY fault rhat you like that person.

Who said it was? And you are free to hate whomever you wish i guess.

Just by what he says and does.

We get that. Hatred has no boundaries.

Ahh yes. "I know you are but what am I?" Look how productive this got. I "insult" Trump. You "insult" me.

Just pointing out what hatred does to a person. It's sad.

Nope. Just that they chose not to hold Trump to account for that behaviour. Why would that make them deplorable?

Yup fits the deporabkes and garbage idea. See i knew it.

Always get a kick out of a trump supporter calling ME elitist.

I know right. How dare the deplorables an garbage people call out the elitism of the better people. Shame on them.

 

[rjs330]

know. The power of the Left Wing is just too much to overcome.

Well that's been true. However that's about to change. The poor dumb peasants have spoken.

 

[rambot]

Well that's been true. However that's about to change. The poor dumb peasants have spoken.

Until trump is no longer the leader I can guarantee you're wrong.

 

[ralliann]

As deftly mentioned, it's not that Trump IS any of those things.

His supporters have known this all along

But he panders to the people who DO feel that way to garner their votes.

So you choose to slander us unstead.

He doesn't need to hate gays, but he does have to make sure that the people who DO hate gays, continues to be supported in their hatred of gays instead of, daring to suggest that maybe they didn't have to be hated....or then creating legislation that further "protects" them.

He protects all of us...

Anyone who has a list of 28 women who accuses him clearly cannot HATE women. And clearly a man who marries a woman but chooses not to maintain a commitment to her is not going to hate women.....he SLEEPS with his mistresses who ARE women!


Trump only likes people....I don't think gender or race is important.

Quit slandering his voters.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Why does Biden's appointment of Peter Buttigieg as Secretary of Transportation not count as the first?

Oh, maybe because Trumps appointments in his first term which was four years before Biden was in office.


That’s why.

 

[JSRG]

Oh, maybe because Trumps appointments in his first term which was four years before Biden was in office.


That’s why.

Hazelponi already pointed this out to me in the very next post after mine, and I then acknowledged the correction only a few posts later. I am not sure why you felt the need to, several pages and several days later, post this.

In some cases I can understand missing someone else offering a correction, but this was literally the very next post.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Hazelponi already pointed this out to me in the very next post after mine, and I then acknowledged the correction only a few posts later. I am not sure why you felt the need to, several pages and several days later, post this.

In some cases I can understand missing someone else offering a correction, but this was literally the very next post.

Because it just showed up on my notifications.