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Exactly!Even satan worshippers have some code of honor, which could be said to align with "some" of God's Commandments.
Right again!There are a lot of religious men who as Paul teaches, profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Six days a week God said we shall do all thy works and labors Exodus 20:9. We love God by keeping His commandments that includes the Sabbath commandment, which God said to keep the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8 We can love neighbor by helping them with their lawn on the 6 other days God gave us to do thy work. When Jesus said it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath the examples were not leaving an animal in a ditch on the Sabbath-that was an emergency, healing people - helping people who are sick- not breaking the Sabbath, never was there an example of hard labor on the Sabbath. The purpose of the Sabbath is to have communion with God and to honor Him on His holy day Isaiah 58:13. If a neighbor falls and needs to be taken to the hospital on the Sabbath, not breaking the Sabbath. If a neighbor needs help with their lawn and asks on the Sabbath we can be a good witness (doing good) and invite them to church with us on the Sabbath and offer to mow their lawn once Sabbath ends.
But Christ did not say "any good act you can think of is appropriate for the Sabbath" -- thank God.
Yes, God revealed in writing that the seventh day is holy. There's no obvious moral aspect to it. Paul doesn't tell the Athenians that they ought not to have thought that the seventh day was like the 6th day.But the Sabbath of God, that is unique to Him. This is what the Christ, the Holy One of Israel said about His Sabbath, before becoming a man.
Ez. 20: 11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. 12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.
Well, it's not a random widow, it's a disabled widow.I see you mowing some random widow's lawn or building a deck, or grilling pork chops on God's Holy Sabbath, what does that show me? Only that you have no respect for God's instruction in righteousness.
Does it matter? It mattered enough for the Christ to have these examples written for us and to inspire Paul to write, "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
I agree that faith comes by hearing the word of God.No. I don't agree that God wrote His Laws on the hearts men who never heard about Him or His Son. And Paul isn't preaching that. You are, but Paul wasn't.
Rom. 10: 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
So does the world and their lord.I like your Attitude!!
No. I don't agree that God wrote His Laws on the hearts men who never heard about Him or His Son. And Paul isn't preaching that. You are, but Paul wasn't.
Rom. 10: 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Those are all examples of gentiles who lived on the fringes of the Jewish world.The Gentiles didn't have God's Laws, they were given to the Jews. But Gentiles heard about God and sought Him out since early on in the Law and Prophets and Rehab shows us.
Matt. 15: 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
Acts 13: 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Acts 15: 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
No, when people go against their inherent moral sense, they know that they are doing wrong. They usually just try to ignore their conscience until it gets softerApparently, God forgot to write His Laws on these Gentile's heart. In your religion, is this because they "turned to God"?
Rom. 6: 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? This is Paul's instruction to both Jew and Gentile.
In that particular case, he's probably talking to Jews.Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Do you believe this is only speaking to men of a certain DNA, or all men?
Are you saying the people in North or South America knew about the Jews?It is foolishness to preach that God writes His Laws on men's heart that are not seeking Him or have not heard of Him. The Gentiles didn't have God's Law, but they sure knew where to find it, and there were those believed, even though they were not given the Oracles of God, but heard about Him through the Jews.
Well, that approach would undermine the very scriptures you want to use.The religious traditions of men have not changed much as Prophesied, "There is no new thing under the sun".
Mark 7: 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
When I look around, I see a world full of religions who have created huge religious businesses, their own high days, their own image of God in the likeness of some random long haired men's hair shampoo model. I see God's Judgments despised and rejected, His sabbaths polluted and ignored. His Feasts mocked and forgotten.
And "many" who come in His Name, who preach that Jesus is truly the Christ, do and preach all these things in Christ's Name. It seems Jesus saw all this coming.
Matt. 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.
It seems this is no different than the religions of Ezekiel's Time.
Ez. 20: 11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. 12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. 13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.
That's right, we don't want to be like the Israelites in the wildernessPaul said these were written as example for us, so we wouldn't be convinced to follow the same path of rebellion and disobedience they followed.
No, I'm not implying either of those thingsIn all due respect. God tells me how to Love and Honor Him, and how to Love and honor one another. You imply that rejecting God's judgments or instructions so men can practice their religious traditions is somehow "moral". Or that God punishing men for doing on His sabbath what they could have done in the 6 days He gave them, is also somehow immoral.
I know what you're sayingI look at God differently having trusted Him in His instruction. I highly recommend it, but there is a cost.
Actually, "until someone of a higher power told them differently" is the point I'm making. There is no obvious moral difference between the seventh day and the other days; someone has to tell you.In your religion this is clearly so. To a child it would be the same, until someone of a higher power told them differently. We disagree because you don't believe God is worthy to instruct you regarding the week HE created. And to anyone before knowing God, one day is no different than another. But to God, that just isn't so. At least according the God of the Bible. You can read it for yourself, it's the "Faith" part that you seem to be the issue.
You don't accept a spherical rotating Earth?Of course you imply by this post that you are wiser than God, and certainly you imply that God didn't know what HE was doing when HE created His Week or His Sabbaths for men.
Me, I don't believe I am wiser than God, nor do I qualify to judge Him or His Holy Instructions.
You are free to do so however, I would caution a brother against such a choice.
We would want to teach her the whole counsel of God, which is more than "you shall do no work..."Hey, mow her lawn. Obedience to God must come from the heart in Faith. I don't believe teaching a widow to reject God's Sabbaths, just because you have, is "Good" for the Widow. But you are obviously persuaded otherwise. Jesus speaks about this as well.
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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