No. He paid the price for violating a contract multiple times for a provision he new about when he signed.
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No. He paid the price for violating a contract multiple times for a provision he new about when he signed.He just paid a price for not conforming to this world.
No. He paid the price for violating a contract multiple times for a provision he new about when he signed.
This has cost Israel Millions of dollars. He has lost sponsorship worth millions and his Inlsoternational rugby career is ended unless he can change his public statements.
It's not like it's been kept a secret until now. So what was so compelling that he had to throw himself on his sword for this? I don't get it.
Many people have many different ideas about what qualifies as a 'Christian belief'.
I think you need to demonstrate that a person without such a contract in Australia would face censure. So still no.Both.
I think you need to demonstrate that a person without such a contract in Australia would face censure. So still no.
You said he paid the price for not conforming to the world. If he had not had that contract, he would not have been fired. Ergo, he was fired for breach of contract (after warnings) and not for his beliefs.I never said something among the lines that everyone is censored so i don't know why you bring that up.
You can read that people lost jobs and studies for this kind of thing, and he stood for what he believed, which is what i said when not conforming to this world. Maybe his values are more important to him than his contract.
You said he paid the price for not conforming to the world. If he had not had that contract, he would not have been fired. Ergo, he was fired for breach of contract (after warnings) and not for his beliefs.
You raise some interesting points. Would they extend to politicians. Is it appropriate that a politician represents his christian [or other religion] regardless of whether his constituency holds to those views.
I fail to see how saying they are going to hell breaches his contract--unless the Rugby assocation endorses a hell. To them, hell is nothing more than a religious belief--which they themselves are supposed to respect. It's like saying he prays that they die, and then they die--and then you prosecute him for murder.
I'd say Israel does not have a good enough lawyer.
Now before you jump onboard and say 'Of course its ethical' consider the current case that has dominated Australian media and Australian sport in particular.
Israel Folau is one of Australia's (if not the world's) greatest Rugby Union players. He is a match winner. He is talented beyond belief and has won an array of national and international sporting awards. He is currently in the Australian Rugby Union team called 'The Wallabies'.
Despite Israel's strong physical appearance, he is a highly personable, gentle and kind individual. He is extremely likeable. Israel is a Christian of the evangelistic ilk.
Rugby Union has as a very strong code of conduct. You will rarely see referee abuse from players - it prides itself on respect for all players, the referees and supporters. International players have particular responsibilities as so many people, particularly juniors, see them as role models. This added responsibility to acknowledge that whats said publicly must accord with the code of conduct, whether its said on the field or off it, is reinforced in player contracts.
Israel, despite being a very nice person has repeatedly made the following types of statements:
That those that are gay, unmarried people having sexual relationships, those that drink to excess....[the list goes on] are sinful and all going to hell.
Now Israel, of course, is making biblical references inline with his christian beliefs. He's not saying terrible things per se....HOWEVER - it has clearly been a breach of his contract and despite just recently signing a four year contract and despite being Australia's shining star - he has been sacked.
Israel Folau to be sacked by Rugby Australia over homophobic comments
Australian rugby's position is that it goes to great lengths to be inclusive. It is not concerned with who you choose to love, or that your mother is a single mother, or your father is in some sort of defacto relationship. It does not want those representing the sporting code to alter that perception with statements indicating that those following the sport are lesser individuals and are in some way bad for their sexual choices or marital status.
So the debate - religious freedom of speech versus the right of a sporting to code to insist its code of conduct is followed.
This has cost Israel Millions of dollars. He has lost sponsorship worth millions and his International rugby career is ended unless he can change his public statements.
Ethics is the morality of men, not of God.
Ethics is the morality of men, not of God.
Even if it were, so what? Loving our neighbor demands appreciating human ethics, and God commands love.
Deontology is a branch of ethics, and it's the ethics of a Christian.
So we should not expect that what is right in the sight of God will be agreeable by men.
Interesting. Wikipedia says Deontology is "the study of the nature of duty and obligation".
What is right in the sight of God is to love our neighbor. That implicitly involves relating to them through ethical actions.
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