Is following the 10 commandments required for salvation?

[DeaconDean]

Fine. Since you consider Jesus making a new covenant and Jesus said "do not kill" then that would be included in the new covenant, would it not?

Sin is sin.

Here again, look at what the Hebrew word un Exodus 20:13 conveys:

"Thou shalt not kill"

"Strong's Number: 7523

Browse Lexicon

Original Word Word Origin

xcr a primitive root

Transliterated Word TDNT Entry

Ratsach TWOT - 2208

Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech

raw-tsakh' Verb

Definition

to murder, slay, kill

1. (Qal) to murder, slay
   1. premeditated
   2. accidental
   3. as avenger
   4. slayer (intentional) (participle)
2. (Niphal) to be slain
3. (Piel)
   1. to murder, assassinate
   2. murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)
4. (Pual) to be killed

Source

If we take "kill" to its logical conclusion, what do you do if you are hunting deer?

If kill literally meant kill, we (humans) would die, starve to death. Whether your hunting for food, or pulling vegetables from a garden, your killing.

Both Old Testament and Jesus were clear. Do not commit murder.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[DeaconDean]

1 John 2:2-6 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our’s only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps his word, in him truly is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that said he stays in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Many don't like the man, but one time I heard Pastor Joseph Prince say something that has stuck with me for a very long time:

If you take text out of context, all your left with is a con.

So, so true.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Received]

The ten commandments offer a good encapsulation of the law. Far from the law being opposed to grace, the law is an expression of grace, because it offers an ideal of how to live. The law is the course of righteousness, but faith is the source of righteousness. It's by the law that we know how faithful we are and how much more work we need to be done.

So no, the ten commandments aren't required for salvation if by this you mean you attain salvation by doing the ten commandments. The ten commandments are evidence of salvation, which comes through a faith working itself out in fear and trembling.

 

[JoeP222w]

Romans 3:19-26 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. (20) For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. (21) But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— (22) the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: (23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (24) and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, (25) whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. (26) It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Many don't like the man, but one time I heard Pastor Joseph Prince say something that has stuck with me for a very long time:



So, so true.

God Bless

Till all are one.

Joseph Prince isn't the issue here. That you are attempting to say Jesus did not teach the ten commandments or say they are still enforce is. There is no context in which it can be proved Jesus vacated the ten commandments.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Sin is defined as the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4) and it is sin that puts us in bondage, not obedience to the law, but rather God's law is a law of liberty (Psalms 119:45, James 1:25). The freedom that we have in Christ is the freedom to do what God has revealed in His law to be holy, righteous, and good. According to Titus 2:11-14, our salvation involves being saved from the penalty of our lawlessness Jesus giving himself to redeem us from all lawlessness, but our salvation also involves being trained by grace to do what God has revealed to be godly, righteous, and good, and trained to renounce doing what God has revealed to be ungodly, sinful, and lawless. So in Romans 8:4, Christ imputes his righteousness into us so that we will do what God has revealed to be righteous and thereby meet the righteous requirement of the law. Jesus fulfilled the law in the same sense that Romans 15:18-19 says that Paul fulfilled the gospel, namely that he taught full obedience to it, not that he did away with it.



For what purpose do you think that God is putting His law in our minds and writing it on our hearts if we are no longer under it? Rather, according to Romans 6:14, the law we are not under has to do with sin no longer having dominion over us, so the law that we are no longer under is the law of sin. According to Romans 7:12-23, Paul said that God's law is holy, righteous, and good, it is the good he sought to do and delighted in doing, but contrasted that with a law of sin that was stirring up sin and causing him not to do the good that he wanted to do, so the law of sin is the opposite of God's law. At no point has God's law ever required anyone to work for our righteousness, but rather it has always been instructions for how we are to live by faith because we have been declared righteous by faith, for the righteous shall live by faith (Habakkuk 2:4). The law is the good way where we will find rest for our souls (Jeremiah 6:16-19, Matthew 11:28-30).



Jesus summarized the law as being about how to love God and how to love our neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40), so love fulfills the law because that is essentially what the law is about how to do.



The Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27).



Those who are in Christ ought to follow his commands and to walk in the same way that he walked, which was in obedience to the law (1 John 2:3-6).

There are enough passages in this thread and contrary to an assertion, in context, to demonstrate Jesus taught us to keep the law. He certainly stated as much and often enough in his ministry. And even expanded upon the law in the sermon on the mount.

I think when people argue the law no longer applies they're either not aware of the context of the scriptures that pertain to the law and sin. And how Gods grace that saves us from sin would not have needed to manifest itself if we had no knowledge of the law in order to transgress the law and thereby commit sin.
It's just easier to go with what is often enough in today's contemporary rewriting of Jesus ministry the idea that grace covers everything like a blanket. So that knowledge of what grace means is unnecessary.

No seminary teaches that Jesus did away with the laws of his Father.

Jesus came to magnify the law not destroy it. That's why the son of God himself was Baptized.
Further, Jesus would, if we believe the anti-commandments circle of argument, be deluded and lying when he said: John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments"
"If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love" (John 15:10). "He who does not love Me does not keep My words" (John 14:24).



Sin is transgression of the law. If there was no law there would be no knowledge of or reality of sin. And no need for the grace of God to save us from our sin. So maybe what the underlying intention of the anti-law teachings are is something far worse than just revoking the words of Jesus concerning the law.

This is a good article on Jesus and the 10.

What Did Jesus Teach About the Ten Commandments?

 

[dqhall]

Matthew 12:
1 At that time, Jesus went on the Sabbath day through the grain fields. His disciples were hungry and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 But the Pharisees, when they saw it, said to him, "Behold, your disciples do what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath. "3 But he said to them, "Haven't you read what David did, when he was hungry, and those who were with him; 4 how he entered into the house of God, and ate the show bread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law, that on the Sabbath day, the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are guiltless? 6 But I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. 7 But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

Jesus openly disobeyed one of the ten commandments and the Pharisees told him they had seen it. Jesus defended his actions. David ate bread that was reserved for priests only, thus breaking the law of the Torah. Priests offered the daily sacrifice in the temple, thus they did work on the Sabbath. Jesus told them God wanted mercy and not sacrifice. In verse 8 Jesus stated a man may decide what he should do on Sabbath.

In Israel the Jewish community businesses and industries are closed for the Sabbath. Gas stations and hospitals are open in case of emergencies. The military is on alert as they are exempt from Sabbath rest in times the nation is under attack. The Jews also have mandatory day of rest during several holidays. On Rosh Hashanah they blew the rams horn shofar like a trumpet, except if the day happens on Shabaht, then the blowing of the shofar is suppressed. There are other laws about what to eat, what is clean and so forth. Even if you obey all these laws you have sinned if you are a male and cut the hair on the sides of your head or do not grow a beard. If you are a male wanting the Torah law and are not circumcised, you have sinned against the law. If you are a woman in your menstrual cycle, you are considered unclean for seven days. According to Jewish law this uncleaness can pass by touching. One who touches a women within seven days of her menstrual cycle is made unclean (Leviticus 15). There are Talmudic arguments suggesting one should not touch something touched by an unclean person. Even if you observe all these things, you sin against the law if you do not offer the animal sacrifices and find a Levite to pay tithes to.

Jesus warned about people who taught laws that were not from God, but were from men.

Matthew 15:1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying, 2 "Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don't wash their hands when they eat bread." 3 He answered them, "Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.' 5 But you say, 'Whoever may tell his father or his mother, "Whatever help you might otherwise have gotten from me is a gift devoted to God," 6 he shall not honor his father or mother.' You have made the commandment of God void because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
8 'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.'"

Paul wrote a number of statements about not being under the law. There are 27 books scholars deemed to be part of a New Testament (covenant). It is not the exact image of the Old Testament from the Torah.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Ah hahaha.

He died not hours after being saved, and since he was on the cross, did he have time to sin?

Your argument is a "red herring".

That is the same thing as the person who is saved in prison just minutes before their execution.

God Bless

Till all are one.

These people like the thief on the cross have no time to sin nor to be baptized, but it doesn't mean that saved people remain sinless after being saved or that saved people should not be baptized. You're exactly right that it's a red herring.

 

[Jim Langston]

The ten commandments offer a good encapsulation of the law. Far from the law being opposed to grace, the law is an expression of grace, because it offers an ideal of how to live. The law is the course of righteousness, but faith is the source of righteousness. It's by the law that we know how faithful we are and how much more work we need to be done.

So no, the ten commandments aren't required for salvation if by this you mean you attain salvation by doing the ten commandments. The ten commandments are evidence of salvation, which comes through a faith working itself out in fear and trembling.

No, my question is not if one obtains salvation by following the ten commandments. My question is more like, if are saved is it required that we follow the ten commandments, at least where it applies to loving our neighbors as ourselves.

Some have some interesting theories when it applies to grace and law but the fact remains:

Someone asked Jesus how to get to heaven and Jesus listed some of the commandments. Everyone who says we it is not required to follow the commandments is saying, in effect, Jesus lied, unless they can come up with some theory as to what Jesus meant when he said do not kill, no not steal, do not lie, etc... For those that have no explanation I discount their theories totally.

The correct interpretation seems to be, if we are saved we are required to love our neighbors as ourselves and so following the ten commandments comes naturally as a part of that (my personal belief). Whether following the ten commandments saves us is not the question. The question is, ar
e we required to follow the ten commandments?

After this discussion we can talk about Jesus leaving off keeping the sabbath holy because going to church is works.

 

[Jim Langston]

Matthew 12:
1 At that time, Jesus went on the Sabbath day through the grain fields. His disciples were hungry and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 But the Pharisees, when they saw it, said to him, "Behold, your disciples do what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath. "3 But he said to them, "Haven't you read what David did, when he was hungry, and those who were with him; 4 how he entered into the house of God, and ate the show bread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law, that on the Sabbath day, the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are guiltless? 6 But I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. 7 But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

Jesus openly disobeyed one of the ten commandments and the Pharisees told him they had seen it. Jesus defended his actions. David ate bread that was reserved for priests only, thus breaking the law of the Torah. Priests offered the daily sacrifice in the temple, thus they did work on the Sabbath. Jesus told them God wanted mercy and not sacrifice. In verse 8 Jesus stated a man may decide what he should do on Sabbath.

In Israel the Jewish community businesses and industries are closed for the Sabbath. Gas stations and hospitals are open in case of emergencies. The military is on alert as they are exempt from Sabbath rest in times the nation is under attack. The Jews also have mandatory day of rest during several holidays. On Rosh Hashanah they blew the rams horn shofar like a trumpet, except if the day happens on Shabaht, then the blowing of the shofar is suppressed. There are other laws about what to eat, what is clean and so forth. Even if you obey all these laws you have sinned if you are a male and cut the hair on the sides of your head or do not grow a beard. If you are a male wanting the Torah law and are not circumcised, you have sinned against the law. If you are a woman in your menstrual cycle, you are considered unclean for seven days. According to Jewish law this uncleaness can pass by touching. One who touches a women within seven days of her menstrual cycle is made unclean (Leviticus 15). There are Talmudic arguments suggesting one should not touch something touched by an unclean person. Even if you observe all these things, you sin against the law if you do not offer the animal sacrifices and find a Levite to pay tithes to.

Jesus warned about people who taught laws that were not from God, but were from men.

Matthew 15:1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying, 2 "Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don't wash their hands when they eat bread." 3 He answered them, "Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.' 5 But you say, 'Whoever may tell his father or his mother, "Whatever help you might otherwise have gotten from me is a gift devoted to God," 6 he shall not honor his father or mother.' You have made the commandment of God void because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
8 'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.'"

Paul wrote a number of statements about not being under the law. There are 27 books scholars deemed to be part of a New Testament (covenant). It is not the exact image of the Old Testament from the Torah.

I don't actually believe that Jesus and his deciples broke the commandment when they plucked the corn and ate. I think the pharisees had too strict a definition of what work was. So I believe that when Jesus said He was Lord of the Sabbath He was saying more like, I know what work is and isn't, don't try to tell God not to be working when I'm not. It is like how the Jews believe even making a mark in the dirt with your shoe was work. That was not the letter nor intent of not working on the Sabbath. There are elevators that stop on every floor on Sunday so people don't have to "work" by pushing the button. Picking a piece of corn and eating it is not work. Gathering corn is.

 

[Soyeong]

There are enough passages in this thread and contrary to an assertion, in context, to demonstrate Jesus taught us to keep the law. He certainly stated as much and often enough in his ministry. And even expanded upon the law in the sermon on the mount.

I think when people argue the law no longer applies they're either not aware of the context of the scriptures that pertain to the law and sin. And how Gods grace that saves us from sin would not have needed to manifest itself if we had no knowledge of the law in order to transgress the law and thereby commit sin.
It's just easier to go with what is often enough in today's contemporary rewriting of Jesus ministry the idea that grace covers everything like a blanket. So that knowledge of what grace means is unnecessary.

No seminary teaches that Jesus did away with the laws of his Father.

Jesus came to magnify the law not destroy it. That's why the son of God himself was Baptized.
Further, Jesus would, if we believe the anti-commandments circle of argument, be deluded and lying when he said: John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments"
"If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love" (John 15:10). "He who does not love Me does not keep My words" (John 14:24).



Sin is transgression of the law. If there was no law there would be no knowledge of or reality of sin. And no need for the grace of God to save us from our sin. So maybe what the underlying intention of the anti-law teachings are is something far worse than just revoking the words of Jesus concerning the law.

This is a good article on Jesus and the 10.

What Did Jesus Teach About the Ten Commandments?

I think you could say that Jesus expounded on the law, but not that he expanded on it because expanding on it would mean that he was sinning in violation of Deuteronomy 4:2.

 

[Soyeong]

Matthew 12:
1 At that time, Jesus went on the Sabbath day through the grain fields. His disciples were hungry and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2 But the Pharisees, when they saw it, said to him, "Behold, your disciples do what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath. "3 But he said to them, "Haven't you read what David did, when he was hungry, and those who were with him; 4 how he entered into the house of God, and ate the show bread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5 Or have you not read in the law, that on the Sabbath day, the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are guiltless? 6 But I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. 7 But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

Jesus openly disobeyed one of the ten commandments and the Pharisees told him they had seen it. Jesus defended his actions. David ate bread that was reserved for priests only, thus breaking the law of the Torah. Priests offered the daily sacrifice in the temple, thus they did work on the Sabbath. Jesus told them God wanted mercy and not sacrifice. In verse 8 Jesus stated a man may decide what he should do on Sabbath.

In Israel the Jewish community businesses and industries are closed for the Sabbath. Gas stations and hospitals are open in case of emergencies. The military is on alert as they are exempt from Sabbath rest in times the nation is under attack. The Jews also have mandatory day of rest during several holidays. On Rosh Hashanah they blew the rams horn shofar like a trumpet, except if the day happens on Shabaht, then the blowing of the shofar is suppressed. There are other laws about what to eat, what is clean and so forth. Even if you obey all these laws you have sinned if you are a male and cut the hair on the sides of your head or do not grow a beard. If you are a male wanting the Torah law and are not circumcised, you have sinned against the law. If you are a woman in your menstrual cycle, you are considered unclean for seven days. According to Jewish law this uncleaness can pass by touching. One who touches a women within seven days of her menstrual cycle is made unclean (Leviticus 15). There are Talmudic arguments suggesting one should not touch something touched by an unclean person. Even if you observe all these things, you sin against the law if you do not offer the animal sacrifices and find a Levite to pay tithes to.

Jesus warned about people who taught laws that were not from God, but were from men.

Matthew 15:1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying, 2 "Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don't wash their hands when they eat bread." 3 He answered them, "Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.' 5 But you say, 'Whoever may tell his father or his mother, "Whatever help you might otherwise have gotten from me is a gift devoted to God," 6 he shall not honor his father or mother.' You have made the commandment of God void because of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
8 'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.'"

Paul wrote a number of statements about not being under the law. There are 27 books scholars deemed to be part of a New Testament (covenant). It is not the exact image of the Old Testament from the Torah.

If Jesus had broken the the Sabbath, then he would have sinned and been in just as much of need of a Savior as anyone else. He never broke the Sabbath, but he did break man's traditions for how to keep it. The reason David and the priests who offered daily sacrifices were not sinning was because the law was never intended to prohibit their actions, just as the Sabbath was never intended to prohibit the actions of his disciples, so they were only violating man's traditions. That is a far cry from saying that we can do whatever we want on the Sabbath. It seems like you recognize this distinction that Jesus warned against laws that were of men rather than of God, so the danger is when we take something that was against the laws of men as being against obeying the laws of God.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

I think you could say that Jesus expounded on the law, but not that he expanded on it because expanding on it would mean that he was sinning in violation of Deuteronomy 4:2.

No, I meant expanded the law.Because Jesus embodied the spirit of the law. That's why he said, if you love me keep my commands.
Whereas the Pharisee and Sadducee were over concerned with the letter of the law since they'd not met the spirit in the law; Jesus Christ. Who was the God that gave the law.

Matthew 5 shows Jesus taught in the sermon on the mount that we are to obey the spirit of his Fathers law as well as the letter of the law.
Jesus was God incarnate. He could never sin. Being he was the author of the Law he could do as he would concerning the law. The sin in Deuteronomy 4:2 pertained to the mortals who would think to violate the rule. God can do anything he wants with his creation.

 

[Soyeong]

No, my question is not if one obtains salvation by following the ten commandments. My question is more like, if are saved is it required that we follow the ten commandments, at least where it applies to loving our neighbors as ourselves.

Some have some interesting theories when it applies to grace and law but the fact remains:

Someone asked Jesus how to get to heaven and Jesus listed some of the commandments. Everyone who says we it is not required to follow the commandments is saying, in effect, Jesus lied, unless they can come up with some theory as to what Jesus meant when he said do not kill, no not steal, do not lie, etc... For those that have no explanation I discount their theories totally.

The correct interpretation seems to be, if we are saved we are required to love our neighbors as ourselves and so following the ten commandments comes naturally as a part of that (my personal belief). Whether following the ten commandments saves us is not the question. The question is, ar
e we required to follow the ten commandments?

After this discussion we can talk about Jesus leaving off keeping the sabbath holy because going to church is works.

According to John 1:16-17, grace was added upon grace, so the grace of Christ was added upon the grace of the law. According to Romans 1:5 we have received grace to bring about the obedience of faith. According to Titus 2:11-14 our salvation involves being saved from the penalty of our sins by Christ giving himself to redeem us from all lawlessness, but it also includes being saved from continuing to sin by God's grace training us to do what He has instructed is godly, righteous, and good, and training us to renounce doing what He has instructed is ungodly, sinful, and lawless.

The problem comes when we think of our salvation as purely a past even when the Bible speaks about it as a past, present, and future event (Ephesians 2:8, Philippians 2:12, Romans 5:9-10).

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

God's grace training us to do what He has instructed is godly, righteous, and good

i.e. TORAH

 

[Soyeong]

No, I meant expanded the law.Because Jesus embodied the spirit of the law. That's why he said, if you love me keep my commands.
Whereas the Pharisee and Sadducee were over concerned with the letter of the law since they'd not met the spirit in the law; Jesus Christ. Who was the God that gave the law.

Matthew 5 shows Jesus taught in the sermon on the mount that we are to obey the spirit of his Fathers law as well as the letter of the law.
Jesus was God incarnate. He could never sin. Being he was the author of the Law he could do as he would concerning the law. The sin in Deuteronomy 4:2 pertained to the mortals who would think to violate the rule. God can do anything he wants with his creation.

If Jesus did something that God revealed to be sin, then that would mean that he sinned and was not God incarnate in the first place. If he could change what was sin on whim then being sinless would have held no relevance and he would not have needed to die for our sins when he could have instead simply changed what was sin so that what we were doing was no longer a problem. Rather, God's righteousness is eternal and does not change and Jesus was sent because the Father would not lower His righteous standard. There is a difference between adding to or subtracting from God's law and teaching how it was originally meant to be understood and obeyed, and Jesus only did the latter. He said that he only did the Father's will (John 6:38) and that his teachings were not his own, but that of the Father (John 7:16), so his commands were the same as what the Father had given.

 

[Soyeong]

Paul also said this in the Book of the Acts of the Apostles
Acts 24:14
But I confess this to you, that I worship the God of our ancestors according to the Way (which they call a sect), believing everything that is according to the law and that is written in the prophets.

If the ten commandments were done away with, being they're not required for salvation because that would then be works based and not based on Gods grace, why did Jesus then spend so much time teaching the ten commandments in the new testament accounts of his ministry?John 15:10

Matthew 19:17 "But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."

The issue is that the law was never about what we need to do in order to become saved, but rather it was given as instructions for what to do because we have been and are being saved.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

If Jesus did something that God revealed to be sin, then that would mean that he sinned and was not God incarnate in the first place. If he could change what was sin on whim then being sinless would have held no relevance and he would not have needed to die for our sins when he could have instead simply changed what was sin so that what we were doing was no longer a problem. Rather, God's righteousness is eternal and does not change and Jesus was sent because the Father would not lower His righteous standard. There is a difference between adding to or subtracting from God's law and teaching how it was originally meant to be understood and obeyed, and Jesus only did the latter. He said that he only did the Father's will (John 6:38) and that his teachings were not his own, but that of the Father (John 7:16), so his commands were the same as what the Father had given.

Jesus never sinned when he expanded the law to include a better understanding of it for the people to whom he ministered.
The spirit of the law was what Jesus embodied when he filled full the law of God and the prophets.
Isaiah 42:21
The Lord wanted to exhibit his justice by magnifying his law and displaying it.

Jesus fulfilled that scripture in the sermon on the mount when he magnified the law and understanding of it through the spirit. Murder is committed out of the spirit of hate. Lust is the spirit behind adultery.
Before this people knew the letter of the law. All 613 Mitzvoh. Jesus filled full their understanding of the spirit behind transgression, sin, in violating the moral laws of the Father.
Of course He did the Fathers will. He was here to fulfill the Fathers will by becoming the embodiment of the prophecy and giving a spirit to the law that made it all come together in understanding that sin is transgression of the law. And the spirit of grace redeems the sinner who would not be so if it were not for the parameters within the law that describe sin and transgression of Gods will.

 

[Soyeong]

Again, Paul said that we are not under the "schoolmaster". And that is what the Law was.

Even with Christ's death on the cross, you cannot place yourself under both the "Law" and "Grace", they are incompatible.

God Bless

Till all are one.

Having no more need for a tutor is not at all the same as having no more need for what the tutor taught you. When you reach the point when you have mastered all of your tutor's lessons, are you then supposed to disregard everything they taught you? God's law is not opposed to His grace because a house divided against itself cannot stand, but rather we have received grace to bring about the obedience of faith (Romans 1:5).

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Jesus taught the commandments and he kept the commandments. The argument that wages claiming Jesus vacated the commandments or that they're defunct is false.

From the link previously posted here just in case it wasn't accessed.



Commandment 1 "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve" (Mat 4:10). "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and the great commandment" (Mat 22:37). "And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. This is the first commandment" (Mk 12:30). "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve" (Luke 4:8).


Commandment 2 "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve" (Mat 4:10). "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve" (Luke 4:8). "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth" (John 4:24). "But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam...to eat things sacrificed to idols" (Rev 2:14). "Nevertheless, I have a few things against you, because you allow...My servants to...eat things sacrificed to idols" (Rev 2:20).

Commandment 3 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men" (Mat 12:31). "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts,...blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man" (Mat 15:19-20).

Commandment 4 "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath" (Mat 12:11-12). "And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath" (Mat 24:20); there would be no reason to pray this if the Sabbath was not going to be in existence. "And He said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath'" (Mk 2:27); this verse tells all who will see which day is the Lord's Day. "And when the Sabbath had come, He began to teach in the synagogue" (Mk 6:2). "And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read" (Luke 4:16). "Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and was teaching them on the Sabbaths" (Luke 4:31). "The Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath...Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?" (Luke 6:5,9). "But the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath...The Lord then answered him and said, 'Hypocrite...So ought not this woman...be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?'" (Luke (13:14-16). "'Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?'...And they could not answer Him regarding these things" (Luke 14:3,6). "are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath?" (John 7:23).

Commandment 5 "For God commanded saying, 'Honor your father and your mother' and 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death'" (Mat 15:4). "Honor your father and your mother" (Mat 19:19). "Honor your father and your mother" (Mk 7:10). "Honor your father and your mother" (Mk 10:19). "You know the commandments:...Honor your father and your mother" (Luke 18:20).

Commandment 6 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder', and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment. But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment" (Mat 5:21-22). "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders...These are the things which defile a man" (Mat 15:19-20). "You shall not murder" (Mat 19:18). "...murders...All these evil things come from within and defile a man" (Mk 7:21,23). "Do not murder" (Mk 10:19). "You know the commandments:...Do not murder" (Luke 18:20).

Commandment 7 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not commit adultery'. But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Mat 5:27-28). "But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery" (Mat 5:32). "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts...adulteries, fornications...These are the things which defile a man" (Mat 15:19-20). "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery, and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery" (Mat 19:9). "You shall not commit adultery" (Mat 19:18). "...adulteries, fornications...All these evil things come from within and defile a man" (Mk 7:21,23). "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery" (Mk 10:11-12). "Do not commit adultery" (Mk 10:19). "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced from her husband commits adultery" (Luke 16:18). "You know the commandments: Do not commit adultery" (Luke 18:20). "'Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery'...And Jesus said to her...'sin no more'" (John 8:4,11). "Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation" (Rev 2:22).

Commandment 8 "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts...thefts...These are the things which defile a man" (Mat 15:19-20). "You shall not steal" (Mat 19:18). "It is written, 'My house shall be called a house of prayer', but you have made it a den of thieves" (Mat 21:13). "...thefts...All these evil things come from within and defile a man" (Mk 7:22-23). "Do not steal" (Mk 10:19). "You know the commandments:... Do not steal" (Luke 18:20).

Commandment 9 "Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord. But I say to you, do not swear at all" (Mat 5:33-34). "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts...false witness...These are the things which defile a man" (Mat 15:19-20). "You shall not bear false witness" (Mat 19:18). "Do not bear false witness" (Mk 10:19). "You know the commandments:...Do not bear false witness" (Luke 18:20). "And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars" (Rev 2:2).

Commandment 10 "Do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on" (Mat 6:25). "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts...These are the things which defile a man" (Mat 15:19-20). "...covetousness...All these evil things come from within and defile a man" (Mk 7:22-23).

"I have kept My Father's commandments" (John 15:10).