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Help yourself to google. Type in hell and hinduism. You will get about 3.5 million hits.
Have you ever watched comedy central. It happens all the time.
Yes... I take His grace very for granted. It is totally reliable and really the only thing I have. Doing so is called "faith."
Well, see if you are able to balance out the idea of annihilation/eternal torment with the verses found here.
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Arent Kingdoms inhabited by more people other than just the heirs? If it were just the heirs, thats not a very large Kingdom, is it?What I want to know is on what you base your claim that non-inheritors (non-heirs) will be allowed to live on the land that is not theirs. If they don't inherit it, then why are they allowed to live there?
While this interpretation of the Healing Tree scenario differs from the one I presented, it still helps in demonstrating just how little room there is for the idea of eternal torment or annihilation. It points to the fact that Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. He doesnt just relocate sin somewhere so that its effects can continue where the saved dont have to see it. He takes it away completely. So that's cool too!Sorry, this seems rather sketchy to me. The Tree of Life whose leaves provide healing for the nations is, IMO, talking about healing the whole land (earth) from the curse as well as redeeming human nature. That passage also says "No longer will there be any curse."
Simply removing sinners from the world does not heal the land of the decay that came in when sin entered. The whole earth suffers from the effects of the Fall. The healing that will come, IMO, means that everything will finally be redeemed.
Nor does removing sinners prevent new sinners from popping up. If we were to gather all the murderers in the world, for example, and put them in a huge prison and throw away the key, that would not mean the end of murder on earth.
In the new earth, the curse - that is, our fallen nature - will be no more.
What mark am I moving? I stated "annihilation / eternal torment".LOL. Quit moving the mark, Chaela. My point was that just because hell may not be eternal torture doesn't mean the wicked will go to heaven. There are other possibilities. I'm not here to argue for annihilationism as I'm not actually a proponent of that theory. I see it as possible, even plausible, but not difinitive.
Arent Kingdoms inhabited by more people other than just the heirs? If it were just the heirs, thats not a very large Kingdom, is it?
While this interpretation of the Healing Tree scenario differs from the one I presented, it still helps in demonstrating just how little room there is for the idea of eternal torment or annihilation. It points to the fact that Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. He doesnt just relocate sin somewhere so that its effects can continue where the saved dont have to see it. He takes it away completely. So that's cool too!
'Thrown into the Lake of Fire, which is the second death.' I'm afraid there isn't any way to interpret that as "allowed into heaven with those whose names are written in the Book of Life."
So Jesus failed and has to have man's help to do the father will? That will preach in cleveland!No, it doesn't really do that at all. lol. I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion, actually.
The saved get redeemed, healed and made whole - the curse is lifted from them. But the unrepentant wicked don't get that. They are removed and/or cease to exist.
'Thrown into the Lake of Fire, which is the second death.' I'm afraid there isn't any way to interpret that as "allowed into heaven with those whose names are written in the Book of Life."
Well, there a lot of verses which convinced Charles manson of things. People use verses to support their views at times.What mark am I moving? I stated "annihilation / eternal torment".
My point is that there are a ton of verses that have convinced me that everyone is redeemed in the end.
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So where are the names? Who's book of life is it? What right do you have to read it in a unloving matter? I think you need to rethink, because it called the Lambs book of life. And there is only one name worthy of being in it and it aren't your's and mine.
And by the way what do you think the cross is a picnic?
That's OK but these are just a few question that one needs to answer. Like have you study what God say's His wrath is after the cross? To make it short it say's He will make us a righteous nation. Just a little history if I had a dollar for ever preacher who said to me I knew what I was saying was wrong about hell and the nature of God please let me repent. If I preach the truth the people will firer me. Sorry I can't take this anymore.Dude, man, you're reading a lot into what I wrote. All I said is that I don't know the answers.
What does Charles Manson have to do with Gods success rate in the salvation department?Well, there a lot of verses which convinced Charles manson of things.
Yes, I see this all the time in their attempts to validate the endless hell concept (which, by the way, makes God out to be infinitely worse than Charles Manson).People use verses to support their views at times.
I'm not sure how God's being 100% successful in His intended mission equates to His Scriptures being full of mistakes.Too many verses which state hell and forever mean either its so or the bible is full of lies and mistakes.
Heb. 12;29 "truly for the God of us fire a consuming" It's God.Question
Is the lake of fire in Revelation a literal fire like our fireplace or bbg or is it a spiritual fire?
When we die where does our flesh go, back to dust?
Where does our spirit go, back to God who gave it?
If we are one of the chosen few in this life the Father has drawn to the Son and our spirit has been quickened by His Spirit, then are we not those who are inheriting the kingdom now and forever and we will rule and reign with Him , we will be ruling and reigning with Him over the rest of the world who have been refined in the lake of fire(spiritual fire) after bowing their knee at the great white throne when they realize it is all true ,Jesus is all in all!!
Heb. 12;29 "truly for the God of us fire a consuming" It's God.Your post is loaded with truth. As for what happean's has already been done before the foundation of the world at the slaining of the lamb. What we will be doing is the Father will as one. And that could be anything He wants. It will be great!
Not that this is my official opinion, but sometimes I think that Heaven and the Lake of Fire might be the same thing, the only difference being the person experiencing it. A lump of butter and a lump of clay, when put under the same hot sun, react very differently - the butter melts and the clay hardens.
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