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Is divine command ethics demonstrable/falsifiable?

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I do, but that doesn't make death good. It was intended a bad thing and it is just that.
It relieved their suffering, it can be argued to be a good thing in terms of effect to the individual rather than the owner that focuses on the loss rather than feeling good that something they cared about is no longer suffering

It's not "just" that because you feel one way, that's purely subjective and myopic
 
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I'm listening.
Not sure what specific kind of explanation you want: abiogenesis is still in hypothetical stages, but that still doesn't grant you more credence, I've already explained that.

You conveniently cut that off in your quote regarding my enumeration of the common fallacy utilized in regards to cosmology, etc. Your explanation is not valid merely because you're not convinced by it with unreasonable standards
 
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It relieved their suffering, it can be argued to be a good thing in terms of effect to the individual rather than the owner that focuses on the loss rather than feeling good that something they cared about is no longer suffering

It's not "just" that because you feel one way, that's purely subjective and myopic

If they weren't dying there would not be suffering to begin with.
one is part of the other.
 
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Not sure what specific kind of explanation you want: abiogenesis is still in hypothetical stages, but that still doesn't grant you more credence, I've already explained that.

You conveniently cut that off in your quote regarding my enumeration of the common fallacy utilized in regards to cosmology, etc. Your explanation is not valid merely because you're not convinced by it with unreasonable standards

I want proof you know where we come from, as was claimed.
 
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If they weren't dying there would not be suffering to begin with.
one is part of the other.
And my point stands, it's not polarized, it's monistic and we create the dualistic structure of making them opposite each other rather than complementing. Death can enable life, it's not as simple as the single instance meaning we can extrapolate to the whole, that's a compositional fallacy

Suffering is not innately damaging, that's a spectrum as much as the notion of fulfillment by individuals depending on their capacities.

The problem is the metaphysical framework of making death something in itself rather than a manifestation of life or some variant that isn't making it diametrically in conflict with life
 
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I want proof you know where we come from, as was claimed.
Then you're asking for something science apart from math doesn't actually give, but I feel like you may not even understand how theory is used in the scientific context either, so you asking for proof is just a symptom of a larger ignorance of scientific terminology.

Pretty sure I didn't say proof, you insinuated that
 
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Having had to euthanize 2 cats I deeply appreciated in my life, I can understand that it felt bad, but by your own Christian perspective, can you not simultaneously mourn the death of a faithful believer, but ALSO be happy they are in heaven (assuming that's even remotely the exact afterlife model that is in the Bible, it seems to vary)?

I usually sympathize with you, but on this point I simply don't believe you understand how the human mind works, especially emotions. It's entirely possible to have ambivalence about a fact, and to express this through seemingly contradictory emotions.
 
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I usually sympathize with you, but on this point I simply don't believe you understand how the human mind works, especially emotions. It's entirely possible to have ambivalence about a fact, and to express this through seemingly contradictory emotions.
Don't think I claimed one could not be both happy and sad, that was enumerated in a related post: I was sad that a stray we took care of passed away, but I was happy that he was no longer suffering as he did. The ambivalence is practically innate in such situations, I'm saying that one cannot polarize it as one of the posters has done in suggesting that death is wholly bad.
 
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