Yes, but there are differences in how many of the pharisees understood the 10 and how Jesus and Paul taught them.
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The Law of God, the Moral Law, are the Ten Commandments, is it not?
John 1:17: "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."
In case, you didn't know Paul was speaking against the works of the Law, and not the works of God. Big difference!
By the way, I find it strange that you consider Paul's doctrine easy to understand, when it's quite in-fact the opposite. I do wonder why you solely rely on Paul? Why do you want Paul's teachings only? Is Matthew not "clear" enough for you?
Bear in mind that our Lords patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:15-16
Romans 3:21-26: "21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement through the shedding of His bloodto be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished 26 He did it to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus."
Romans 4:5: "But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness."
Romans 5:1-2: "1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God."
Ephesians 2:8-10: "8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them."
Titus 3:4-7: " 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life."
I know and agree brother, but the word law is confusing because Gods will is also found in the law. When paul says we are not justified by law or works he's right, but we are not following Jesus who justifies us by His grace if we don't obey Gods will, if we don't follow Jesus we won't be saved. And some law is no longer Gods will, but some law is. Grace and law are not easily put into a box, there are a few things we must consider concerning Grace/faith/law/Gods will. We could keep things simple if we would not use this word law as much as we do. Its confusing, and we end up arguing over things we probably all agree on.
Mt 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
does it say the works justify?
In case, you didn't know Paul was speaking against the works of the Law, and not the works of God. Big difference!
By the way, I find it strange that you consider Paul's doctrine easy to understand, when it's quite in-fact the opposite. I do wonder why you solely rely on Paul? Why do you want Paul's teachings only? Is Matthew not "clear" enough for you?
Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:15-16
Yes, but there are differences in how many of the pharisees understood the 10 and how Jesus and Paul taught them.
Jesus said, "17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:17-20
What Law or the Prophets was He referring to? And how can our righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees?
abraham was just, before the law by 430 years..
John 1:17: "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."
Jesus brought grace and truth. One without the other is not the Gospel
The pharisees didn't understand Gods law, nor did they ever keep it. They were hypocrites who only made it "appear" as if they did.
abraham was just, before the law by 430 years..gal 3;17 love it...god bless.
Frogster said:abraham was just, before the law by 430 years..
Gods word does not end there read on, Jesus did something that the scoffers will never believe He died for our sins...Jesus Christ says otherwise...
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
Then the King will say to those on his right, Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.
Then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?
The King will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
Then he will say to those on his left, Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.
They also will answer, Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?
He will reply, Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life. Matthew 25:31-46
He most certainly was and his justification was BY WORKS and not by faith alone.
James 2:21-24
"Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith WROUGHT WITH HIS WORKS, AND BY WORKS was faith made perfect? AND THE SCRIPTURE WAS FULFILLED WHICH SAITH, ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS IMPUTED UNTO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS: and he was called the friend of God. YE SEE THEN HOW THAT BY WORKS A MAN IS JUSTIFIED, AND NOT BY FAITH ONLY."
There it is, AGAIN, folks. Abraham was JUSTIFIED BY WORKS and NOT by faith only. In fact, the scripture which says that Abraham BELIEVED GOD was not fulfilled until his faith WROUGHT WITH HIS WORKS. Were these works "the works of the law"? Nah, couldn't have been...the law came 430 years LATER.
Well, James said "seest thou how" and "ye see then how", but, alas, some will still shut their eyes to it. And so it goes...
Get ready for some more "magic wand", totally unrelated verses on "the works of the law". Trust me, they're coming...
Time to play with my children.
abraham was just, before the law by 430 years..gal 3;17 love it...God bless.
He most certainly was and his justification was BY WORKS and not by faith alone.
James 2:21-24
"Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith WROUGHT WITH HIS WORKS, AND BY WORKS was faith made perfect? AND THE SCRIPTURE WAS FULFILLED WHICH SAITH, ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS IMPUTED UNTO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS: and he was called the friend of God. YE SEE THEN HOW THAT BY WORKS A MAN IS JUSTIFIED, AND NOT BY FAITH ONLY."
There it is, AGAIN, folks. Abraham was JUSTIFIED BY WORKS and NOT by faith only. In fact, the scripture which says that Abraham BELIEVED GOD was not fulfilled until his faith WROUGHT WITH HIS WORKS. Were these works "the works of the law"? Nah, couldn't have been...the law came 430 years LATER.
Well, James said "seest thou how" and "ye see then how", but, alas, some will still shut their eyes to it. And so it goes...
Get ready for some more "magic wand", totally unrelated verses on "the works of the law". Trust me, they're coming...
Time to play with my children.
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