Water baptism or Holy Spirit baptism? There is only One Baptism, and that is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit... being Born of God. Water does not remove sins. Only the Holy Spirit can cleanse the soul. The theif on the Cross received the One Baptism from Jesus Christ and was never dunked in water. The man in Acts 19:2-3 was dunked in water but had not received the One Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Did you not read my "
ONE BAPTISM" post way back? You did totally fail to respond to it? So I'll 'add to' my comment from last time, just in case you didn't understand my 'brief' refutation as to your "
one baptism" theological understanding.
EPH 4:4-6 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.
Remember taking those tests in school where you were supposed to pick out the one thing that didn't fit in a listing of four things? Example: What word doesn't fit in the following list?
Rose, lily, carnation, rock. Got the answer? It's
rock of course. Now let’s see if that same logic’ actually applies to the 'one baptism' verse of Eph 4:5. A list that is reference to the “
one hope” of “
our call” to???....It is to our ‘
call to God’.
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One Lord"...is that speaking of you or Jesus?
"
one faith"...is that faith in you or faith in Jesus?
"
one God and Father”...is that like when
Isa 9:6 said
Jesus' name was "
mighty God, Everlasting Father," or is it talking about you as a god and father?
Now, we only have one other thing left in that list, and it is the "
one baptism". So, the question for me is: Is this '
a baptism' that pertains to you...or to Jesus? Scripturally speaking, there is more than ‘
one baptism’ that pertains to ’
the foundational’ doctrines for ‘YOU as a Christian’.
HEB 6:1-2 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again ‘the foundation’ of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
If there are multiple “
baptisms” pertaining to our faith, then what “
one baptism” might scripture be speaking of, as we read Eph. 4:5?
LUK 12:50 But I/Jesus have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!
The baptism spoken of here isn’t with ‘water for repentance’ or the ‘Holy Spirit for supernatural power’ because Jesus had already had those two baptisms. The baptism spoken of here is
the baptism of the death which Jesus still had laying ahead of Him, on the cross.
ROM 6:3-5 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.
This verse above speaks of the only baptism in Luke 12 which Jesus still had not received. And scripture says we identify with Jesus in this baptism of death when we participate in “
one” of those ‘
foundational baptisms’ in Hebrews 6. Baptisms which scripture says we should experience in laying down the very
foundation of our faith’ before we can go on to maturity. And Ephesians is the only baptism necessary for us to ALL believe in concerning the “
hope” of our “
call” in Christ. It is the only baptism (“
one baptism”) we, as a highly divided church, must cling to, which will determine whether we maintain “
the unity of the Spirit” or not. And in the context
‘the unity of the Spirit’ is what Eph 4: is talking about. It is not referencing the ‘
unity of the Church’ which is an application that even Paul refutes.
1CO 1:12-17: …13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you,…
