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Natsumi Lam

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Ok again

1. Can a standard infant understand complex language or the gospel message? Can a deaf person hear? Can a foreigner hear a language and understand the message? There has to be context.

2. These are the signs that follow...just pick one...can an infant do even one?

3. Salvation belief in heart...how can you tell if an infant believes? You confess...how does an infant confess?

4. What action from the infant signifies belief let alone comprehension?

Therefore, infant baptism is just fire safe insurance.
 
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Well as I do not know where you are referring to in scripture I cannot answer.
You wrote, "We are given the fulness of the spirit at the moment of salvation."
So I asked what went wrong in Samaria. The Apostles had to lay hands on the newly baptized believers for them to receive the Holy Spirit. Because they weren't "given the fulness of the spirit at the moment of salvation." (as you claimed)

Acts 8:14-17
When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
 
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Don't be such a sore loser. Can't you admit when you are wrong?
 
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Quite the vivid imagination.
 
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Do you speak in tongues?
 
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Are you waiting for the final judgement to find out if you will be saved?
 
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Since when did Peter open the door for the Samaritans?

Why do you think the keys were only for Peter? Jesus was talking to ALL the disciples.
 
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An infant soul can meet the Spirit of God, rejoice, and receive the Word of God EVEN IN THE WOMB. That was case of John the Baptist who leaped for joy in his mother's womb, full of the Spirit, when Mary the mother of Jesus brought the news of her carrying the Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 1:15 Luke 1:44)
 
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If you are someone opposed to the doctrine of baptismal regeneration, please give your reasons for being opposed, and preferably back up your argument from the text of Scripture.

Water baptism or Holy Spirit baptism? There is only One Baptism, and that is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit... being Born of God. Water does not remove sins. Only the Holy Spirit can cleanse the soul. The theif on the Cross received the One Baptism from Jesus Christ and was never dunked in water. The man in Acts 19:2-3 was dunked in water but had not received the One Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
 
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John, though, is hardly the normal case. A miracle happened. Elisabeth's joy and the Spirit's urging produced in him a supernatural movement.
 
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There is two. Water baptism and Holy Spirit baptism. Acts 2. .....Pentacost is an example.
 
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I'll address both of your comments with scripture...
It is written..."For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.' (Rom 6:5-7)
Why wasn't your old man killed, buried, and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life?
Why were you not "freed from sin"?

It seems you do believe that, and have presented a doctrine to prove it.

Yes Adam was kicked out of paradise for one sin- do you believe you will be kicked out of your paradise by one sin?
Why would my disobedience garner a different outcome?
Especially after Christ died to free me from sin?
 
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How does that work? - lol
Turn from sin and get (water) baptized and then you can ask God for the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Luke 11:13)
Then you will find out. (Acts 2:38)
 
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Are you waiting for the final judgement to find out if you will be saved?
I will either meet Christ in the air at His return, if I live till then, or be judged with everybody else at the final judgement.
 
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