Intelligence Report: Islam Setting up U.S. - Warn Your Politicans!

[imind]

still waiting for those verses.

 

[tomcat4u]

ILoveIsrael--

If you do your research and homework you will find the reality in the radical islamic mind.

To ignore this and call it nonsense is just what they want. Also, I work with an iranian and he knows what he is talking about along with the rest of the exmuslims from terrorist countries.

Having read the Quran, I can vouch for people who are afraid of it. Its non-stop talk about the "infidel" is not only annoying but scary. Wahabism isn't the only source of evil in Islam today. Don't forget the Quran and Hadith.

There are many Muslims and are what we would consider reasonable people. But Islam itself, the idea, the religion, is dangerous. But beware, and keep in mind one of Jesus' greatest attributes: compassion. Don't hate the person who is Muslim. Beware the ideas that make them so.

 

[Blackness]

Having read the Quran, I can vouch for people who are afraid of it. Its non-stop talk about the "infidel" is not only annoying but scary. Wahabism isn't the only source of evil in Islam today. Don't forget the Quran and Hadith.

There are many Muslims and are what we would consider reasonable people. But Islam itself, the idea, the religion, is dangerous. But beware, and keep in mind one of Jesus' greatest attributes: compassion. Don't hate the person who is Muslim. Beware the ideas that make them so.

The Bible also has places were it mentions how non believers are your enemies and you should not associate with them (infidels). Also there is a part that says you should stone homosexuals to death.

Stop it.

 

[tomcat4u]

The Bible also has places were it mentions how non believers are your enemies and you should not associate with them (infidels). Also there is a part that says you should stone homosexuals to death.

Stop it.

There are many more examples of such immorality in the Bible. I don't seek to only scrutinize Islam. We can go on a long list from many other religions if you'd like. Having read both the Bible and the Quran (yes, all of them), I believe the Quran to be the more violent one and the one that is more likely to implant violent ideas into someone's head.


If someone wants to start a list of horrible things in the Bible, be my guest

Some of the Quran:

"If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next." 2:85

"Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. " 4:89

"Those who hear and reject Allah's revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom." 45;7-8


Here is one that shows some good in the Quran, for balance:

"Pay the poor-due. That is true religion." 98:5

 

[Blackness]

There are many more examples of such immorality in the Bible. I don't seek to only scrutinize Islam. We can go on a long list from many other religions if you'd like. Having read both the Bible and the Quran (yes, all of them), I believe the Quran to be the more violent one and the one that is more likely to implant violent ideas into someone's head.


If someone wants to start a list of horrible things in the Bible, be my guest

Does it matter how many times?

 

[tomcat4u]

Does it matter how many times?

?? I'm not following

Plus, I also edited my last post, check it out

 

[Blackness]

There are many more examples of such immorality in the Bible. I don't seek to only scrutinize Islam. We can go on a long list from many other religions if you'd like. Having read both the Bible and the Quran (yes, all of them), I believe the Quran to be the more violent one and the one that is more likely to implant violent ideas into someone's head.


If someone wants to start a list of horrible things in the Bible, be my guest

Some of the Quran:

"If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next." 2:85

"Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. " 4:89

"Those who hear and reject Allah's revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom." 45;7-8


Here is one that shows some good in the Quran, for balance:

"Pay the poor-due. That is true religion." 98:5

I do recall that the Quran should only be written in Arabic and not in any other language (something like that). I will discuss with other Muslims about the Quran.

 

[tomcat4u]

I do recall that the Quran should only be written in Arabic and not in any other language (something like that). I will discuss with other Muslims about the Quran.

That does not mean it is impossible to translate it I'm not here to hate on Muslims. I'm here to present some facts. You make the choice yourself. I'm not going to force you either way. I'll present the arguement, you decide. But words are words. If the words are spoken in a different language, it would mean the same thing.

Frankly, I'm interested in the Quran, and I'm glad someone was able to translate it into a language I can understand. I shouldn't have to learn a whole other language just because someone objects to translation. Honestly, I think Muslims would be rather ecstatic that others are able to learn about their sacred text through translation.

 

[bunced]

I'm not scared by the prospect that Muslims may be trying to take over the US, UK, France, Burger King or wherever.

I am petrified by the racist, biggotted, mis-informed and hate-filled posts made by many in this thread who are arguing this case.

In the 1930s, there was a political party who sought to argue that Jews were trying to conspire against a nation and overthrow it from within, and that everything that went wrong was a result of the Jews. They took steps to try and reduce this problem and they educated their population as to the threat that the Jews posed, and why they should be scared of them.

That political party was the Nazi party. Their propaganda led to the murder of nearly 6 million people. That scared me

In the UK, we have a political party today called the British National Party, which seeks to restore Britain "to a Christian country". What this entails is shouting racist abuse at every passing non-white, objecting to the appointment of John Sentamu, the current Archbishop of York, on the grounds he's black, stirring up Islamaphobia, curbing immigration and taking away equal opportunities. This party in the last election got at least 15 seats

That scares me.

In "1984", a book about a Dictatorship written by George Orwell, there is the theory put forward that a state always needs an external enemy to be afraid of so that it can control it's population and keep them where it wants them, as a form of manipulation. And if that external enemy doesn't exist, make one up, because 10 to 1 no-one will mind as long as they have someone to turn their anger on, and then the state can use it as a way for cutting down on liberties and for persecuting some groups so as to remove this hidden 'threat'. War on Terror perhaps?

For goodness sake, and for the sake of world peace, I beg you all from the bottom of my heart to get your heads out of the sand and learn some tolerance and respect towards other people and other faiths.

Sure their are some bad eggs in the Muslim faith - but there are in the Christian faith - the IRA, for example. Everywhere there will be people who seek to harm, injure and kill others. And it will remain that way until Christ returns and sets up his dominion of Peace.

The biggest threat to world peace is not the vast majority of the Muslim faith, the Sikh faith, the Christian faith or whatever. The biggest threat to world peace is misunderstanding based upon fear, hate and prejudice. And to be quite honest, such bigoted views and derision petrify me, and I feel embarrassed and ashamed that I share the same faith as those who present them.

 

[sebastian]

I think it's time to accept the fact that racists and -phobes of all types will always exist no matter what we do. I propose we marginalize them. From now I think we, the ones who don't go on ignorant tirades against a religion we've never made any true effort to understand, boycott all topics of this nature. If they want to sit back and talk about how ebil teh mooslems are then, well, let's let them. We'll read their posts and say to ourselves "Oh, you guys. You're so silly. I wish I could close my brain like you peeps".

So, who's in?

maybe we could start another thread called "ignorance is taking over the world - everyone read a book!"

I wish i was actually funny....

 

[Tenka]

Your politicians must be told and their phones should be ringing off the hook so they never get any peace!!!

Can anyone give me the textbook definition of terrorism? I'll save you some time, basically it is the act of creating or exploiting fear in order to advance political agenda.

I give you the OP, textbook classic terrorism.

 

[salida]

Tenka --

I strongly suggest that you read the article in this thread which is reality. This has nothing to do with creating fear. No, this isn't my mission in life. When one sees a train coming or a person that is drowning they want to save them from being hurt.

Remember 9/11 madam?

 

[CCGirl]

Tenka --

I strongly suggest that you read the article in this thread which is reality. This has nothing to do with creating fear. No, this isn't my mission in life. When one sees a train coming or a person that is drowning they want to save them from being hurt.

Remember 9/11 madam?

How can we even begin to forget?

You do realize that terrorism existed loooong before the US attack of 11 Sept?

 

[salida]

CCGirl--

Yes, in other parts of the world it existed. The U.S. just didn't get hit yet.

 

[Tenka]

I strongly suggest that you read the article in this thread which is reality. This has nothing to do with creating fear. No, this isn't my mission in life. When one sees a train coming or a person that is drowning they want to save them from being hurt.

Salida, I read it and thats why I said what I said.
Your 'report' is written by "Independent Analyst" Randy Taylor, who is Independent Analyst Randy Taylor? He is usually known as Evangelical minister Randy Taylor and his 'report' can be summarized as:
Remember 9/11?? Islam is here and our government is doing nothing! Remember 9/11?? Alert everyone about evil Islam!
But what really topped off this neat little propaganda piece was the way he managed to slot in:

The primary piece of irony that strikes me as asinine is our push in this country to arrest, prosecute and even forever blacklist pedophiles yet we are welcoming a religion established by a pedophile.

Remember 9/11 madam?

In my pic, I'm the guy.

 

[Steezie]

CCGirl--

Yes, in other parts of the world it existed. The U.S. just didn't get hit yet.

I REALLY hate to lift a leg on your Cheerios, but this is NOT the first terrorist attack on the US, or even on the WTC for that matter.

Tell me, does the date Febuary 26th 1993 mean anything? Strike any bells? Raise any flags? I didnt think so.

That was the day that the WTC was attacked by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, El Sayyid Nosair, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Ahmad Ajaj, and Abdul Rahman Yasin. They received financing from al-Qaeda member Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. They used a 1,500 lb urea nitrate-oil bomb in the parking garage with the goal of knocking the North tower down and it hitting the South tower. Six people died and over a thousand were injured.

For those of you playing the home game, this was an al-Qaeda sponsored attack by Khaled Shaikh Mohammed. He was tried and convicted of masterminding the September 11th attacks as well as a string of other bombings and attacks including the 1993 attempt on the WTC.

This is NOT the first time at this particular dance. Why was al-Qaeda not a threat then but they are now? They've been attacking us for 10 years and now all of a sudden its a problem? Why wasnt something done about it THEN?

 

[salida]

Steezie--

I agree with you. They should have been stopped long before the 9/11 ordeal.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Folks, you have to keep in mind that people who don't understand the threat Islam poses to humanity by now don't WANT to understand.

We could wake up tomorrow morning, and find Muslims blew up London, Manchester, Dublin, Berlin, Oslo, Munich, Rome, Madrid, Lisbon, Athens, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Omaha, San Francisco, Denver, Los Angeles, Seattle, Buffalo, Ottawa, Montreal, Vancouver, Toyko, Osaka, Beijing, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Minsk, Cape Town, Nairobi, Sydney, Darwin, and Auckland, 300M dead total, and do you know what they'd say?

"Islam is a religion of peace, it's just a few radicals, and it's all the JOOOOs' fault because they have their own country!"

So there's no use trying to reason with Muslim apologists. They will defend Islam and blame-shift no matter how many corpses Islam piles up. Even if Islamofascists started building railways into Israel and North Africa and began rounding up Africans and Jews and European Christians and shipping them off to be gassed in concentration camps, these people would STILL insist there was nothing wrong with Islam. It's the same kind of stubborn denial of truth you find in the Flat Earth Society, except their particular delusion is dangerous.

 

[Steezie]

I agree with you. They should have been stopped long before the 9/11 ordeal.

Then why did you claim the US has never been hit by terrorism before 9/11 when VERY clearly it has.

Folks, you have to keep in mind that people who don't understand the threat Islam poses to humanity by now don't WANT to understand.

Why thank you Captain Eddie. Tell me, how much actual research and education have you done on Islam? How many Muslims and Muslim clerics have you talked to? And watching them on CNN or Al-Jazeera does not count.

We could wake up tomorrow morning, and find Muslims blew up London, Manchester, Dublin, Berlin, Oslo, Munich, Rome, Madrid, Lisbon, Athens, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Omaha, San Francisco, Denver, Los Angeles, Seattle, Buffalo, Ottawa, Montreal, Vancouver, Toyko, Osaka, Beijing, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Minsk, Cape Town, Nairobi, Sydney, Darwin, and Auckland, 300M dead total, and do you know what they'd say?

"Islam is a religion of peace, it's just a few radicals, and it's all the JOOOOs' fault because they have their own country!"

The only people who blame it on the Jews are white supremacists. Are you suggesting the only people who are for Islam are racists?

So there's no use trying to reason with Muslim apologists. They will defend Islam and blame-shift no matter how many corpses Islam piles up. Even if Islamofascists started building railways into Israel and North Africa and began rounding up Africans and Jews and European Christians and shipping them off to be gassed in concentration camps, these people would STILL insist there was nothing wrong with Islam. It's the same kind of stubborn denial of truth you find in the Flat Earth Society, except their particular delusion is dangerous.

Kinda like some of the Christian appologists I've run in to.

 

[Dracil]

Personally, me and my friends will never be muslim because we will be mortars for Christ. Its an honor to die for Christ as the Apostle Paul says and because when we die - all we do is go to heaven so its not all that scary. No, we arn't afraid and arn't going to be ruled with fear!!

LOL. Mortars. Well, yeah. If you let yourself be fired off as a long range explosive ammunition you aren't gonna live (hey, where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, suicide bombing)

BTW, you sound just like all those radical muslim terrorists. The only thing separating you from them are some virgins in heaven. I guess so that I'm not like "the peaceful Muslims" as you described in your OP, as a peaceful Christian I must stop you.