Intelligence Report: Islam Setting up U.S. - Warn Your Politicans!

[fanatiquefou]

Excuse me? We BOTH made an assertion. As such the responsibility lies with us both equally. He asked me to prove my assertion, I asked him to prove his. And I didn't ask him to prove my assertion, I asked him to prove his. Tis an impasse friend, but you show your bias by pretending to be unaware of that.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood your post and didn't realize that he had made an assertion as well.

 

[k]

Oh yeah? Well I assert an assertion that was an asserted insertion at the wrong intersection!

 

[soblessed53]

I'm open to your evidence that in all 50 Muslim majority countries (I'll accept even half) suicide bombers are generally hailed as heroes. We can even limit it to the Middle East if you want: Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Please show that throughout these countries suicide bombers are publically thought of as heroes. That claim does not fit with the anti-terrorist actions of most of those countries.

pinqy

Israel?

Not hardly! Israel does not use, suicide bombers,and they certainly do not hail as heroes, the Palestinian suicide bombers,that have caused such a loss to Israeli lives! Leave them out of your Islamic list.

 

[Ave Maria]

Just what we need is a Muslim nation. Nope. What we need is a Christian nation and that is pretty much what we have.

 

[fanatiquefou]

Just what we need is a Muslim nation. Nope. What we need is a Christian nation and that is pretty much what we have.

What we need is a secular nation that respects all religions and beliefs without specifically endorsing any.

 

[pinqy]

Excuse me? We BOTH made an assertion.

No, I didn't. I stated that I have seen no such thing as YOU are asserting. That's not an assertion, that's a fact. I have not seen all the evidence and polls you clearly have already seen or you wouldn't have made your assertion.

You made a claim. I stated that I have seen no evidence to support such a claim and that what I have seen, in anti-terrorist activities that I DID prove, seems to contradict your claim.

Now, where did your claim come from that you have to be searching for evidence now? Surely you've already seen the evidence or you wouldn't make your claim. As it is you're offering Palestinians, who IIRC, make up a large percentage of the suicide bombers, as representatives for the whole Middle East. That doesn't work. That's certainly not "throughout."

 

[pinqy]

Israel?

Not hardly! Israel does not use, suicide bombers,and they certainly do not hail as heroes, the Palestinian suicide bombers,that have caused such a loss to Israeli lives! Leave them out of your Islamic list.

It's not an Islamic list, and I never claimed Israel used suicide bombers. Avatar made the claim the suicide bombers are hailed as heroes throughout the Middle East. Israel is in the Middle East so I included it int the list of Middle Eastern Countries.

 

[k]

Has anyone here read 'Jihad vs. McWorld?' great eye opening book!

 

[Norseman]

Your politicians must be told and their phones should be ringing off the hook so they never get any peace!!!

The "peaceful" communists arn't aware of what the communist manifesto says and/or arn't doing anything. Do you know any peaceful communists stopping the radical ones? If so, I want a very detailed report on how they are stopping them with your list of resources. Presently, they having nothing to show for their efforts.

The U.S. needs to come out of the pipe dream and wake up to reality. I thought 9/11 was reality enough.

---Note: This isn't a "phobia". The correct term for the word phobia is when someone is radically afraid of something and it is diagnosed as a mental illness. This is called self defense folks!! When people use the term communo phobia or whatever phobia they mislabel it and obviously don't know what the word is defined as.

Please, please, go to your dictionary and look up what a word means before you use it - that way you will at least appear educated.

Your politicians must be told and their phones should be ringing off the hook so they never get any peace!!!

The "peaceful" illuminati arn't aware of what the fama fraternitatis says and/or arn't doing anything. Do you know any peaceful illuminati stopping the radical ones? If so, I want a very detailed report on how they are stopping them with your list of resources. Presently, they having nothing to show for their efforts.

The U.S. needs to come out of the pipe dream and wake up to reality. I thought 9/11 was reality enough.

---Note: This isn't a "phobia". The correct term for the word phobia is when someone is radically afraid of something and it is diagnosed as a mental illness. This is called self defense folks!! When people use the term illumino phobia or whatever phobia they mislabel it and obviously don't know what the word is defined as.

Please, please, go to your dictionary and look up what a word means before you use it - that way you will at least appear educated.

Your politicians must be told and their phones should be ringing off the hook so they never get any peace!!!

The "peaceful" atheists arn't aware of what the god delusion says and/or arn't doing anything. Do you know any peaceful atheists stopping the radical ones? If so, I want a very detailed report on how they are stopping them with your list of resources. Presently, they having nothing to show for their efforts.

The U.S. needs to come out of the pipe dream and wake up to reality. I thought 9/11 was reality enough.

---Note: This isn't a "phobia". The correct term for the word phobia is when someone is radically afraid of something and it is diagnosed as a mental illness. This is called self defense folks!! When people use the term atheist phobia or whatever phobia they mislabel it and obviously don't know what the word is defined as.

Please, please, go to your dictionary and look up what a word means before you use it - that way you will at least appear educated.

I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!

 

[pinqy]

7 in 10 palestinians support suicide bombers. Are you going to insist I find out about Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc now? Or are you suggesting the Palestinians are the rabid wild dogs of the middle east surrounded by touchy-feely cuddly-bunny loving neighbors?

So, you don't know what the word "throughout" means? It doesn't mean "in one tiny region." Palestinians are directly involved in conflict with Israel trying to wrest land from them. They're the ones committing the bombing attacks in Israel. Note that their goal is really more political than relgious.

And no, Palestinians are certainly not representative of the Middle East as a whole.

 

[k]

Lol-that was funny norse!

 

[Wolseley]

What we need is a secular nation that respects all religions and beliefs without specifically endorsing any.

Drop a line to Minneapolis Community and Technical College and remind them of that for me, will you?

http://www.startribune.com/191/story/1115081.html

Its officials say the college, a public institution, has a strict policy of not promoting religion or favoring one religion over another. "The Constitution prevents us from doing this in any form," says Dianna Cusick, director of legal affairs.

But that seems to depend on your religion.

Where Christianity is concerned, the college goes to great lengths to avoid any hint of what the courts call "entanglement" or support of the church....They appear to take a very different attitude toward Islam.

Welcome and accommodation are the order of the day for the college's more than 500 Muslim students. The college has worked with local Muslim leaders to ensure that these students' prayer needs and concerns are adequately addressed, Davis told me.

...where the Muslim prayer facilities are concerned, college authorities themselves are consulting with religious leaders, researching other schools, and using taxpayer money to make improvements to facilitate one group's prayer.

Can you imagine what would happen if a college used taxpayer money to make improvements to facilitate Christian prayers???

Or if a college spokesman said something like this:

"Welcome and accommodation are the order of the day for all of the college's Christian students. The college has worked with local Christian leaders to ensure that these students' prayer needs and concerns are adequately addressed."

Ye gods, the local ACLU chapter would blow a gasket. There would be so many freakin' lawsuits filed inside of a week that the local judge would fly to Aruba and refuse to come back.

 

[k]

Am i the only one that has a beef with the op title?

 

[soblessed53]

Originally Posted by Woseley

Can you imagine what would happen if a college used taxpayer money to make imprivements to facilitate Christian prayers???
Or if a college spokesman said something like this:
"Welcome and accommodation are the order of the day for all of the college's Christian students. The college has worked with local Christian leaders to ensure that these students' prayer needs and concerns are adequately addressed."
Ye gods, the local ACLU chapter would blow a gasket. There would be so many freakin' lawsuits filed inside of a week that the local judge would fly to Aruba and refuse to come back.

That is so very true!

 

[k]

If muslims are demanding this then all muslim students should kick in a few dollahs in their school fees to pay for and maintain the basins. Or they could carry squirt guns filled with holy water? Oh wait...

 

[k]

Davis has a good point bout the cafeteria menu catering to Christians and whatabout how schools schedule around Christian holidays?

 

[Wolseley]

Davis has a good point bout the cafeteria menu catering to Christians and whatabout how schools schedule around Christian holidays?

Yeah, but anybody can eat fish on a Friday, not just Christians. Who's going to use foot-washing basins outside of Muslims?

As for schools scheduling around holidays, let's face it: if they remained open during Christmas, for example, how many people are going to show up for classes, students and faculty alike? Very few. They're going to take off to be with their family, and the school is not going to waste money by remaining open when only a small fraction of the campus population is going to show up. It has more to do with economics instead of religion.

 

[burrow_owl]

As for schools scheduling around holidays, let's face it: if they remained open during Christmas, for example, how many people are going to show up for classes, students and faculty alike?

And that's exactly the point: our secular institutions are already structured around the spiritual needs of Christians. Christian holidays and sundays are granted the Christian community so that its needs can be met.

Most people (especially college kids) don't go to church on sunday, so this isn't about economics, but rather about how deeply ingrained Christian culture is in the wider culture.

 

[Wolseley]

So issue a decree that all secular institutions will be open seven days a week, 365 days a year. Nobody's going to twist anybody's arm to show up during any given holiday, however, be it Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or Klingon.

 

[k]

My point was the christian religion dictates both a part in the cafeteria and the scheduling-why aren't there complaints about that?