Imminent Health Care Bill Vote, What's Wrong with it?

[EpiscipalMe]

And I disagree that he's right. Most people on ACA cannot afford to see a doctor because of the deductibles.

Medicaid expansion in all states would have helped with that (not solved, but helped). Too bad Republican governors care more about party than people.

The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid

 

[mark kennedy]

Medicaid expansion in all states would have helped with that (not solved, but helped). Too bad Republican governors care more about party than people.

The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid

While the Medicaid expansion was intended to be national, the June 2012 Supreme Court ruling essentially made it optional for states. (The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid)

Indiana was one of those states that opted out, thanks Mike Pence.

 

[HighCherub]

There's nothing wrong with Trump's notion of healthcare.

The problem is that this country is full of immature liberals, throwing their tantrum, and so many conservatives who simply aren't in touch with the world they live in.

The insurance standard in this country fails under a hurting economy, because you cannot afford insurance without a good job that offers it.
A scraped knee costs you a small fortune without it, and that is a monumental problem.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

There's nothing wrong with Trump's notion of healthcare.

The problem is that this country is full of immature liberals, throwing their tantrum, and so many conservatives who simply aren't in touch with the world they live in.

The insurance standard in this country fails under a hurting economy, because you cannot afford insurance without a good job that offers it.
A scraped knee costs you a small fortune without it, and that is a monumental problem.

It's the liberals' fault that the Republican proposal has abysmally poor polling numbers?

It's the liberals' fault that Trump and McConnel can't rally their own party to vote for this monstrosity?

Give me a break.

 

[mark kennedy]

There's nothing wrong with Trump's notion of healthcare.

The problem is that this country is full of immature liberals, throwing their tantrum, and so many conservatives who simply aren't in touch with the world they live in.

The insurance standard in this country fails under a hurting economy, because you cannot afford insurance without a good job that offers it.
A scraped knee costs you a small fortune without it, and that is a monumental problem.

Insurance companies are under capitalized, that's what deregulation will get you. Now they take those premiums and gamble them on Wall Street so when catastrophic heath care crisis hits, like an aging baby boomer generation it get shifted back on the tax payers. Why not go back to regulating them sensibly.

 

[Hank77]

Stay classy.

GOP lawmaker suggests duel with female senators

What a chicken. Guess he was afraid to say the same about Rand Paul, Kasich, and a couple of others who have objections and have refused to support the last two writings of the bill.
I've met men like that who make intimidating remarks towards women but when confronted by a man the tuck tail and run.

 

[HighCherub]

It's the liberals' fault that the Republican proposal has abysmally poor polling numbers?

It's the liberals' fault that Trump and McConnel can't rally their own party to vote for this monstrosity?

Give me a break.

Epaiscoplian- somewhere between Methodist and Catholic.
Perhaps semi-Anglican?

Either way, I don't agree with your assessment anymore than I do your church theology.
Liberals sort of brought back an economy that suffered by the oil industry, and pretends that it is superior when really liberals have no interest in the American standard.

 

[Hank77]

There's nothing wrong with Trump's notion of healthcare.

Hmmmm...thinking, thinking, thinking

 

[Hank77]

Liberals sort of brought back an economy that suffered by the oil industry,

What does this mean, 'suffered by the oil industry.'

 

[mark kennedy]

Hmmmm...thinking, thinking, thinking

What's puzzling you is whether or not he has one.

 

[HighCherub]

What does this mean, 'suffered by the oil industry.'

Bush's battles sucked the oil from the ground- a resource that every modern economy relies on for it's importance in running industrial or agricultural work and transporting their goods.

 

[Hank77]

What's puzzling you is whether or not he has one.

Exactly. He said he did but then he didn't know it would be so difficult so he gave up.

 

[Fantine]

I have mixed feelings about Republicans squeaking through to the finish line with this dangerous, harmful bill favored by only 12% of Americans.

What's wrong with it? Consult the position papers of the AMA, AARP, USCCB, Catholic Health Association, Congressional Budget Office, American Cancer Society, Heart Association---for starters. Why do they oppose it? Depending on the version, there are 22 million, 24 million, or 32 million reasons, along with 915,000 unemployed, hospital closures in rural areas...

When I am optimistic, I think about the good aspects of this--massive Republican losses in 2018, even more so if they continue to defend the indefensible administration. Extreme threats call for extreme measures, and we have never been in need of a complete government overhaul more than we are today.

When I am pessimistic, I think about people who could lose their insurance and even die because of Republican treachery....

If they repeal and don't replace until January 2019, even when Democrats take over Congress, the "good" replacement bill they send to the president will be trashed, and, true to form, he will attempt to shift blame on to them completely (although I do believe that his credibility will be close to 0% at that point, so it may not matter).

I just want to see America getting out of its current mess with as few casualties as possible, and if Republicans going on the offensive against everyday Americans will speed that along, it might be OK.

Of course we will all need to keep up our pressure and advocacy, and never stop reminding people who put them in the mess they'll be in.

 

[Hank77]

Bush's battles sucked the oil from the ground- a resource that every modern economy relies on for it's importance in running industrial or agricultural work and transporting their goods.

Sorry I don't see that.

 

[Hank77]

I just want to see America getting out of its current mess with as few casualties as possible,

Me too and I really don't care who does it.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Epaiscoplian- somewhere between Methodist and Catholic.
Perhaps semi-Anglican?

Either way, I don't agree with your assessment anymore than I do your church theology.
Liberals sort of brought back an economy that suffered by the oil industry, and pretends that it is superior when really liberals have no interest in the American standard.

So you are saying that the bill is popular and the McConnell / Trump have managed to secure yes votes from all 52 Republican senators? Because both these beliefs are demonstrably untrue.

And, oil production went down under Bush, and up under Obama.

 

[wing2000]

Let's talk about the upcoming vote and the issues.

Tuesday's vote (if successful) would only open debate on the yet to be revealed, oh-so-secret bill.

 

[mark kennedy]

Tuesday's vote (if successful) would only open debate on the yet to be revealed, oh-so-secret bill.

At this point I welcome an open discussion of the bill and any information on what is in it I can get.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Let's complain about prices and defend a for-profit system.

The market works just fine. Thanks.

 

[Root of Jesse]

More welfare is the solution?

Medicaid expansion in all states would have helped with that (not solved, but helped). Too bad Republican governors care more about party than people.

The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid