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For healthcare? Yes.
The capitalist ideal of a "free market" is a failure when it comes to healthcare.
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Imminent Health Care Bill Vote, What's Wrong with it?
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For healthcare? Yes.
The capitalist ideal of a "free market" is a failure when it comes to healthcare.
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The majority of Republican politicians still are operating under the delusion that if they do nothing (except possibly making concessions to the Democrats in the name of "bipartisanship") for four years, they'll be sure to win in a landslide in the 2020 presidential election.
The contempt that they must have for their voters is astounding.
The contempt that they must have for their voters is astounding.
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I just noticed the poll shows 83% blame the GOP agenda. Pretty obvious they are going at this with a lot of partisan rhetoric and ulterior motives.
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Because the political forums here are well known to be a representative sample of the US electorate...
That's why, for instance, on election night we had so many threads telling us that President Trump was going to win the election.
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That election night was miserable, Honestly was months before I even wanted to talk about it. I think I knew he was going to win and I was bracing for the worst. It turns out that he is so mired in scandal and ineptitude he was a lame duck four months into the Presidency. I'm just crossing my fingers this Health Care Bill doesn't pass, that would be a shot in the arm.
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If you only determined that you knew he was going to win after he already won, then I'll trust all of your other political predictions accordingly: only after they are already true.
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I didn't. I have never been so wrong about anything in my life.
I watched the most qualified Presidential candidate in American history concede the election to a fool. And that was miserable. But I'm not angry at Republican voters, because they VOTED. They voted because they care about their country and they take democracy seriously. Unlike the purity trolls on the left.
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I was looking at Ohio and it wasn't looking good, I knew Clinton was going to poll higher but the way districts are set up I figured the electoral college was a toss up. He also had strong support in Florida, which had my nerves frayed. It wasn't a prediction, it was an apprehension fully realized on election night.
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I will agree that if we take the overall state of the government as our guide, corruption and scandals are a great metric to use to determine who is most qualified to be president.
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I loved what Clinton was prepared to do with the economy, it would have been awesome I'm sure. She played too hard to her base and when she made her deplorables statement I cringed. I think the Democrats need to be more grass roots and less party status quo. A great victory for him, gotta hand it to him, but he has done diddly squat since. His ego is the albatross around his neck, he may well be the only one in his administration to survive it's demise. Then he can tell the rhyme of the demagogue candidate, over a bottle of cheap wine, while I'm trying not to weep.
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What's your opinion on laws that legalize abortion?
A truly tragic number of humans die that way every year.
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It's fine as long as you don't encourage people to go against God's teaching on the matter.
Here's the specific rule you're thinking of:
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"I voted for the motion to proceed to allow debate to continue and amendments to be offered. I will not vote for the bill as it is today. It's a shell of a bill right now. We all know that. I have changes urged by my state's governor that will have to be included to earn my support for final passage of any bill. I know many of you will have to see the bill changed substantially for you to support it.
"We've tried to do this by coming up with a proposal behind closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them it's better than nothing, asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition. I don't think that is going to work in the end. And it probably shouldn't."
-Sen. McCain
Watch: Sen. McCain Calls For Compromise In Return To Senate Floor
"We've tried to do this by coming up with a proposal behind closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them it's better than nothing, asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition. I don't think that is going to work in the end. And it probably shouldn't."
-Sen. McCain
Watch: Sen. McCain Calls For Compromise In Return To Senate Floor
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Looks like the Better Care Reconciliation Act has taken a backwards step in the Senate, going down 43-57 in a vote:
First GOP health care bill fails, with many more votes to come
Seems like nine Republican senators voted against it: Mike Lee, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Dean Heller, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Tom Cotton.
Meanwhile, the House voted 419-3 to introduce new sanctions on Russia, Iran and North Korea. So, it looks like Republicans and Democrats CAN work together, at least on international issues.
First GOP health care bill fails, with many more votes to come
Seems like nine Republican senators voted against it: Mike Lee, Susan Collins, Bob Corker, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Dean Heller, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Tom Cotton.
Meanwhile, the House voted 419-3 to introduce new sanctions on Russia, Iran and North Korea. So, it looks like Republicans and Democrats CAN work together, at least on international issues.
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