If you're a Christian and pro-choice, you're on the wrong side of the issue.

[civilwarbuff]

Is it possible for personhood to begin at conception?

Is it possible that "personhood" begins before conception?

 

[bhsmte]

Is it possible that "personhood" begins before conception?

What do you think?

 

[civilwarbuff]

What do you think?

Absolutely....and you?

 

[bhsmte]

Absolutely....

How would you support that claim?

 

[civilwarbuff]

How would you support that claim?

How would you refute it?

 

[bhsmte]

I asked for evidence not a question....if you have no evidence just say so.

http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/first-trimester/

 

[PapaZoom]

Is it possible that "personhood" begins before conception?

Possible perhaps but not reasonable in my view

 

[Belk]

I'm still getting an "I really don't know" answer from you. So I'm wondering how you can justify killing something that may be a person but you aren't sure. You can't just make up a definition and call it good.

I did not simply make it up. I have good reasons for defining it that way. What issue do you take with my definition that you feel it is sub par?

 

[civilwarbuff]

http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/first-trimester/

That is what I wanted....so even with that info you are still OK with killing babies?

 

[bhsmte]

That is what I wanted....so even with that info you are still OK with killing babies?

Many more fetus's are killed through natural abortion/miscarriage. In fact, 50% of pregnancies end in natural abortion.

I believe the women has a right to her own body, up to the point the fetus has not developed the ability to feel pain and or has any significant development. After 12 weeks, I have a problem with abortion, unless it is for medical reasons.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Possible perhaps but not reasonable in my view

Why? Do not souls exist before conception?....or are they only created at conception?

 

[PapaZoom]

Since transcendent simply means beyond human I'm thinking pretty much anywhere. What transcendent truth does God supposedly hold?

Not quite. It means beyond human experience and knowledge. If you don't believe in God, how do you account for truths that are beyond human experience and knowledge? What is the source?

 

[bhsmte]

Why? Do not souls exist before conception?....or are they only created at conception?

What is a soul exactly?

 

[PapaZoom]

Why? Do not souls exist before conception?....or are they only created at conception?

Not before. There is no solid biblical evidence for this

 

[durangodawood]

Is it possible for personhood to begin at conception?

Possible? I suppose. Sounds very unlikely though, as the newly fertilized egg doesnt resemble anything we normally call a "person".

The question is best answered by each person according to her conscience.

 

[durangodawood]

Not before. There is no solid biblical evidence for this

Is there biblical evidence that the soul is created only at the moment of conception?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Many more fetus's are killed through natural abortion/miscarriage. In fact, 50% of pregnancies end in natural abortion.

I believe the women has a right to her own body, up to the point the fetus has not developed the ability to feel pain and or has any significant development. After 12 weeks, I have a problem with abortion, unless it is for medical reasons.

I will give you this....my wife or her unborn child.....my wife every time unless she say's otherwise. Not sure about the 50% stat....personally I believe it is far less than that unless God is really inept (IMHO). But why 12 weeks....what is so special about 12 weeks? Because a woman can feel movement at that time?....is there some religous significance? When does life become LIFE? And to be honest, I never think of a pregnacy as a fetus....only as a child.

 

[civilwarbuff]

What is a soul exactly?

Something that lives on beyond us...

 

[durangodawood]

Johns Hopkins Manual of Obstetrics say rate of miscarriage for all pregnancies is somewhere btwn 30% and 50%.

 

[bhsmte]

I will give you this....my wife or her unborn child.....my wife every time unless she say's otherwise. Not sure about the 50% stat....personally I believe it is far less than that unless God is really inept (IMHO). But why 12 weeks....what is so special about 12 weeks? Because a woman can feel movement at that time?....is there some religous significance? When does life become LIFE? And to be honest, I never think of a pregnacy as a fetus....only as a child.

In fairness, why don't we back up a moment and address a previous post and question I had for you and then we can move on to this one.

You asked me to provide evidence for a point I made and I obliged. I then asked you to support a claim you had made with evidence and I have yet to get a response.

Lets start there.