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Featured If you keep sinning after you are saved are you still saved?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Neostarwcc, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Hammster

    Hammster Buckeye Newshawk Award Winner Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Can you re-ask the question? I’m not sure what you are wanting to know.
     
  2. thecolorsblend

    thecolorsblend If God is your Father, who is your Mother?

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  3. Aldrin25

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    Peter denied Jesus, but after that, Peter cried and repented it but Jesus still accepted Him.

    When we are saved, we going to still sin but we will not enjoy it. Our Desire is to obey the Lord, we are slave of righteousness.

    So if you Sin and you are enjoying it, that's questionable and scary.
     
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  4. Kenny'sID

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    Probably best I didn't.
     
  5. Hammster

    Hammster Buckeye Newshawk Award Winner Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Okay.
     
  6. d taylor

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    Inherit The Kingdom of God and Enter the Kingdom of heaven or Kingdom of God.

    Again the loose your salvation group, states that 1 Corinthians 6:9 is an example of a person or persons who loose their salvation.

    But they can only just say that, because they have no proof from the Bible that inheriting the Kingdom of God is connected with, an example of a person loosing their salvation because of sins.

    There is Ephesians 5:5 states that no one (fornicator,etc..) will have any inheritance in the Kingdom of God. Again nothing is said about not being allowed to enter the Kingdom. Just not having an inheritance in the Kingdom.

    In Luke 18:18-23 The rich young ruler.
    Jesus is asked what “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” Again, here is the word inherit being used and not enter.

    Jesus gives the rich young rules a list of works to do.
    (You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, etc..)

    Then Jesus tells the rich young ruler one more thing to do, Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor,

    But it is seen after Jesus says that, Jesus goes on to say: and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

    That is in heaven, the rich young ruler will have treasure in heaven, not that he will enter in to heaven.

    So the "having treasure in heaven" shows that the rich young was asking about the eternal life part of rewards, for the believer and was not asking how to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (how to have eternal life/salvation).

    The rich young ruler was asking Jesus, about rewards not how to enter the Kingdom of heaven.

    Strong's for Inherit
    2816. kléronomeó
    kléronomeó: to inherit
    Original Word: κληρονομέω
    Part of Speech: Verb
    Transliteration: kléronomeó
    Phonetic Spelling: (klay-ron-om-eh'-o)
    Definition: to inherit
    Usage: I inherit, obtain (possess) by inheritance, acquire.

    Cognate: 2816 klēronoméō (from 2818 /klēronómos, "a specific allotment of inheritance, apportioned by casting lots") – properly, to assign inheritance (inherit) by lot. See 2818 (klēronomos) for more discussion on sonship and inheritance.

    2816 /klēronoméō ("to assign inheritance by lot-casting") is used in relation to believers claiming their earthly inheritance assigned (alloted) by the Lord.

    [The believer receives their opportunity and reward for inheritance by divine-lot (cf. Eph 1:11, Gk text), which apportions the possessions of the Father for their gift of inheritance.]

    Strong's for Enter
    1525. eiserchomai
    eiserchomai: to go in (to), enter
    Original Word: εἰσέρχομαι
    Part of Speech: Verb
    Transliteration: eiserchomai
    Phonetic Spelling: (ice-er'-khom-ahee)
    Definition: to go in (to), enter
    Usage: I go in, come in, enter.

    1525 eisérxomai (from 1519 /eis, "into, unto" and 2064/erxomai, "come") – properly, come into, go (enter) into; (figuratively) to enter into for an important purpose – for the believer, doing so to experience the result of the Lord's eternal blessing.

    Nothing in the Biblical definition for inherit about entering into.

    Now this verse in John

    Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

    Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
     
  7. Kenny'sID

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    :)
     
  8. d taylor

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    you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise

    In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

    you were sealed
    sphragizó
    4972 /sphragízō ("to seal") signifies ownership and the full security carried by the backing (full authority) of the owner. "Sealing" in the ancient world served as a "legal signature" which guaranteed the promise (contents) of what was sealed.

    Strong's Greek: 4972. σφραγίζω (sphragizó) -- to seal
     
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