If selection pressure waned and waxed, such that the species started again: what'd you do better?

[SkyWriting]

It does not matter if I understand your beliefs or not.

Then that ends your views of them. Thanks.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Evidence for it happening but no explanation as to why.

Once again, not evidence.

Without a testable hypothesis you by definition do not have any evidence.

I would suggest that you try to learn what is and what is not evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then that ends your views of them. Thanks.

You are so incorrect. When you say something on the order of 2 + 2 = 5 I do not need to know your religious beliefs to know that is wrong.

Unfortunately many religious people lower their beliefs to the level of superstition.

 

[SkyWriting]

You are so incorrect. When you say something on the order of 2 + 2 = 5 I do not need to know your religious beliefs to know that is wrong.

Unfortunately many religious people lower their beliefs to the level of superstition.

What you believe is right or wrong is none of my business.

 

[SkyWriting]

Once again, not evidence.

Without a testable hypothesis you by definition do not have any evidence.

I would suggest that you try to learn what is and what is not evidence.

I decide that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What you believe is right or wrong is none of my business.

And there is another error of yours. You have mere belief. Since what I know can be tested and confirmed rationally I have knowledge, at least when it comes to life. Knowledge trumps mere belief.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I decide that.

Nope. You don't. Convincing ourselves is almost always just fooling ourselves. If you had a rational system you could know instead of merely believing.

This is why creationists lose in court. They may believe that life was created but they have no reliable evidence for it. Those on the side of science do have rational evidence for what they know. It is a requirement of the field. Mere belief does not cut it.

 

[SkyWriting]

Nope. You don't. Convincing ourselves is almost always just fooling ourselves.

I'm sure that you believe that.

 

[SkyWriting]

And there is another error of yours. You have mere belief. Since what I know can be tested and confirmed rationally I have knowledge, at least when it comes to life. Knowledge trumps mere belief.

As any athlete or successful person will explain, belief trumps knowledge every time.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

As any athlete or successful person will explain, belief trumps knowledge every time.

I would rather take actual workable knowledge in something over blind belief.

And we're not talking about athletes or successful persons here, we're talking about science.

 

[SkyWriting]

I would rather take actual workable knowledge in something over blind belief.

And we're not talking about athletes or successful persons here, we're talking about science.

If one has "working knowledge" then they are not seeking anything and no research would be conducted. The "working knowledge" didn't spring from "working knowledge".

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If one has "working knowledge" then they are not seeking anything and no research would be conducted. The "working knowledge" didn't spring from "working knowledge".

Working knowledge is not a be all and end all state of knowledge. I have a working knowledge of how cars work, but I don't enough to say that I can completely take care of a car by myself.

 

[SkyWriting]

Working knowledge is not a be all and end all state of knowledge. I have a working knowledge of how cars work, but I don't enough to say that I can completely take care of a car by myself.

And you have a belief that you know enough, a belief that you could know more, a belief that the knowledge is out there somewhere, a belief that you could find more, a belief that the entire system is built by intelligence, a belief that what you discover would make sense, and beleife that the car does not operate by random principals.....etc. Without belief you are stuck.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And you have a belief that you know enough, a belief that you could know more, a belief that the knowledge is out there somewhere, a belief that you could find more, a belief that the entire system is built by intelligence, a belief that what you discover would make sense, and beleife that the car does not operate by random principals.....etc. Without belief you are stuck.

I don't believe any of those things.
I know that I know enough and could know. I know that the knowledge is out there somewhere and I know that I can find more. I know that the entire system is built by intelligence, and I know that I discovered would make sense and I know that the car does not operate on random principals.

You're the one who is stuck on belief, not I.

 

[SkyWriting]

I don't believe any of those things.
I know that I know enough and could know. I know that the knowledge is out there somewhere and I know that I can find more. I know that the entire system is built by intelligence, and I know that I discovered would make sense and I know that the car does not operate on random principals.

You're the one who is stuck on belief, not I.

Those are all beliefs about the unknown.
Sometimes referred to wild-as-guesses when based on limited experiences.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Those are all beliefs about the unknown.

Nope, not at all.

 

[SkyWriting]

I don't believe any of those things.
I know that I know enough and could know. I know that the knowledge is out there somewhere and I know that I can find more. I know that the entire system is built by intelligence, and I know that I discovered would make sense and I know that the car does not operate on random principals.

You only believe all those things and none of them may be correct.
They are all subject to further testing which will never provide proof
but will only provide additional evidence for a premature conclusion.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You only believe all those things and none of them may be correct.
They are all subject to further testing which will never provide proof
but will only provide additional evidence.

Wow, you are so off the mark that it's not even funny any more.
I know what I know and I know what I do not know. Those are facts that I know about myself. Yes, they may be incorrect, they may also be correct. It takes knowledge to find that out, not belief.

Buddy, at this point, I have to believe that you are trolling.

 

[SkyWriting]

Wow, you are so off the mark that it's not even funny any more.
I know what I know and I know what I do not know. Those are facts that I know about myself. Yes, they may be incorrect, they may also be correct. It takes knowledge to find that out, not belief.

Buddy, at this point, I have to believe that you are trolling.

Belief always rules ones life. Thanks for illustrating!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Belief always rules ones life. Thanks for illustrating!

Knowledge also rules ones life, and you are not illustrating that in the slightest.