If selection pressure waned and waxed, such that the species started again: what'd you do better?

[tas8831]

You're just shooting the breeze, as far as I can tell.

You've been on this forum for 15 years, and you still have this level of (mis)understanding re: evolution.

All I can hear is "I need the conditions to be absolute" "I need the entire species to try in unison" things which God is capable of, but for which you will not acknowledge Him?

"I need for Evolution to refer to specific set of species, with a specific level of perfection" sounds like "I need to jury-rig something for which there is no evidence, by excluding interference at random"... seriously, how confusing and unpredictable do you need it to be?

When you posit your typically absurd scenarios, and people explain to you why your scenarios are absurd and nonsensical, and to either try to explain to you why your scenarios are silly and/or to show you why by humoring you, you often pull what you are pulling here.
If you are so sure creationism is correct, why do you never start threads explaining creation? Presenting evidence for creation?

Let me ask you something: is Evolution ever going to reach a point, where it venerates the ground on which Darwin walked?

Cute - so cute how frequently creationists will try to equate a scientific concept into something on their level? Religion?
And do so as a means to do this:

'Cause I really don't want to be in a conversation that proves anything goes for someone who finds an exception to the Cross? Jesus' Cross was final, it was for every sin, every sin that was committed in the name of Evolution, every sin that was committed in the name of anything else. There is no way for your readiness to evolve, being above sin and the temptation to sin.

You are disingenuous.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm sure that you believe that.

Once again I can support that.

I doubt if you have done a valid test of your beliefs. Have you ever considered that?

If you cannot make a proper defense of your beliefs it indicates that mere belief is all that you have.

 

[SkyWriting]

Once again I can support that.I doubt if you have done a valid test of your beliefs. Have you ever considered that?If you cannot make a proper defense of your beliefs it indicates that mere belief is all that you have.

I'm sure you believe that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm sure you believe that.

Are you just being rudely snarky? Or do you have a proper test for your beliefs? Do you think that your beliefs are rational?

 

[Gottservant]

Except that Jacob didn't because that is not something that is biologically possible. You cannot make animals change their fur pattern by making them look at sticks.

So let me ask you this: if Jacob had continued to put peeled bark in front of his flocks, after the first generation, would his flocks have developed even more speckles, or just consistently the same amount?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So let me ask you this: if Jacob had continued to put peeled bark in front of his flocks, after the first generation, would his flocks have developed even more speckles, or just consistently the same amount?

No they wouldn't. Because just seeing sticks with peeled bark does nothing to change an animals hair colour or patterns. The story of Jacob and his sheep is not a scientific claim. It's a story.

 

[Gottservant]

No they wouldn't. Because just seeing sticks with peeled bark does nothing to change an animals hair colour or patterns. The story of Jacob and his sheep is not a scientific claim. It's a story.

It's not "just" a story, it is also a testimony.

The testimony of two witness is true.

If science wants to build truth out of what is true, it will have to take this testimony seriously.

The Devil would have me contradict you for no reason, that is not what I am doing.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It's not "just" a story, it is also a testimony.

The testimony of two witness is true.

If science wants to build truth out of what is true, it will have to take this testimony seriously.

The Devil would have me contradict you for no reason, that is not what I am doing.

I served on a jury for a murder case. The testimony of two witnesses is not true.

The story of Jacob and his sheep is just a story since the 'science' involved in it is not something factual or real. You cannot make sheep produce different coloured offspring to their parents by just making them look at differently cut sticks. It's not possible.

 

[Gottservant]

The testimony of two witnesses is not true.

You and who else, thinks this is true?

The story of Jacob and his sheep is just a story since the 'science' involved in it is not something factual or real. You cannot make sheep produce different coloured offspring to their parents by just making them look at differently cut sticks. It's not possible.

You have attempted the same thing yourself?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You and who else, thinks this is true?

You have attempted the same thing yourself?

Are we really going down this childish route? Really?

Buddy, you're just wrong on this, accept it.

 

[Gottservant]

Are we really going down this childish route? Really?

No, no, you are apparently speaking from experience?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No, no, you are apparently speaking from experience?

You are being childish here.

 

[Gottservant]

You are being childish here.

Sorry but I am speaking from experience, you dismissing me is the other way around.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Sorry but I am speaking from experience, you dismissing me is the other way around.

So you've seen people use striped sticks in front of mating sheep to have those sheep produce sheep of a different coat?
Because unless you have, no, you aren't speaking from experience, you're just parroting the Bible.

 

[Gottservant]

So you've seen people use striped sticks in front of mating sheep to have those sheep produce sheep of a different coat?
Because unless you have, no, you aren't speaking from experience, you're just parroting the Bible.

That's what the Bible records.

The question you should be asking, does this increase their survivability over all? How can we do this in a way that increases overall survivability?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's what the Bible records.

The question you should be asking, does this increase their survivability over all? How can we do this in a way that increases overall survivability?

No, that's what the Bible claims. There is no scientific basis for that claim, so it's bunk.