If booster is useless or worse, what is the point of any of this?

[power1]

Because there are many factors besides vaccinations that determine the number of people who get infected.

Here is a fact: Unvaccinated people are more likely to require hospitalization than vaccinated people.

Much more likely.

Not in some places! It seems also true that with the new variant, only mass exposure will help!

Omicron wave will only end after masses are infected - analysis

Speaking of infected people. Here is some scary news

"Fifteen bodies were examined (all died from 7 days to 6 months after vaccination). The coroner or the public prosecutor didn’t associate the vaccine as the cause of death in any of the cases. However, further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the deaths of 14 of the 15 cases. The most attacked organ was the heart (in all of the people who died), but other organs were attacked as well. The implications are potentially enormous resulting in millions of deaths. "
Bhakdi/Burkhardt pathology results show 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine

!

 

[power1]

Which is the best opinion.

Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one.

 

[cow451]

Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one.

Some are more attractive than others.

 

[power1]

Some are more attractive than others.

I think we ran too far with this parable already

 

[rturner76]

etc etc etc etc. Then apparently the omricon thing started with vaxxed people.

Not the fataities and ICU visits. That's 87% unvaccinated

No big secret what they censor.

It does seem to be a secret because you don't actually know who is censoring this "truthful information."

he political “fact-checking” industry has become a power center exercising increasing control over public discourse. Yet fact-checking organizations’ claims of being accurate and impartial have often not been substantiated. Observers across the political spectrum have acknowledged that the “fact-checking” process is non-scientific and incorporates substantial reviewer bias. Systematic reviews have demonstrated severe ideological skew with little evidence of impartiality or factual integrity. Recommendations are made from published sources for reform of the “fact-checking” industry to facilitate fairness and accuracy and curtail politically-motivated censorship.

So you have fact-checked "WND?" The story you quotes was a paper written by Steve Kirsch. a Silicon Valley tech entrepreneur and philanthropist who founded the Covid-19 Early Treatment Fund.
He has no chemistry, no biology background. He just shares your opinion and his study is not peer reviewed so it amounts to a guy and a word document.

You really should search for better sources. It seems you get all of your information from wnd.com which has not been verified by anybody, neither peer-reviewed nor independent. It's basically a blog you make life-affecting decisions by. Try science. It works better than our "gut."

 

[power1]

Not the fataities and ICU visits. That's 87% unvaccinated

Says who?

It does seem to be a secret because you don't actually know who is censoring this "truthful information."

Everyone should know. Mainstream news, twitter, facebook etc.

So you have fact-checked "WND?" The story you quotes was a paper written by Steve Kirsch. a Silicon Valley tech entrepreneur and philanthropist who founded the Covid-19 Early Treatment Fund.
He has no chemistry, no biology background. He just shares your opinion and his study is not peer reviewed so it amounts to a guy and a word document.

The one he quoted was by doctors.

https://www.[bless and do not curse... and do not curse]ute.com/video/fHIT55iM4Zv9/

You really should search for better sources. It seems you get all of your information from wnd.com which has not been verified by anybody, neither peer-reviewed nor independent. It's basically a blog you make life-affecting decisions by. Try science. It works better than our "gut."

Says who? I suspect they check before they publish a story.

How about this story?
"
“Because Omicron is so contagious, our efforts to stop its spread are probably pretty futile,” said Prof. Hagai Levine, chairman of the Israeli Association of Public Health Physicians. “We are not going to stop this wave.
“What we can and should try to do is protect the most vulnerable as much as possible.”
Omicron wave will only end after masses are infected - analysis

Basically the vaccine nonsense and restrictions etc can't work.

 

[rturner76]

Says who?

Just about everybody

The one he quoted was by doctors.

that one had somekind of profanity in the web address. Sounds very trustworthy for a conspiracy theorist

Says who? I suspect they check before they publish a story.

How about this story?
"
“Because Omicron is so contagious, our efforts to stop its spread are probably pretty futile,” said Prof. Hagai Levine, chairman of the Israeli Association of Public Health Physicians. “We are not going to stop this wave.
“What we can and should try to do is protect the most vulnerable as much as possible.”
Omicron wave will only end after masses are infected - analysis

Basically the vaccine nonsense and restrictions etc can't work.

You "suspect 'they' check before 'they' publish a story. Who is checking? You don't even know. What are they checking? You have no source other than disgruntled employees and conspiracy artists. Nothing you post can be independently verified sp it's rumor. You can't take rumors as facts.

This person's opinion on Onicron, if it even is true, vaccines are even more important because it prevents fatalities over 90% of the time whereas 87% of covid cases in the ICU are UNVACCINATED. Unvaccinated people die from covid. Take your own chances but don't come on here saying covid is some kind of hoax.

Post another conspiracy site, they are so funny. Try to find one without profanity in the web address. It won't post right otherwise.

 

[cow451]

I think we ran too far with this parable already

We should parably move along, then.

 

[expos4ever]

Not in some places! It seems also true that with the new variant, only mass exposure will help!

What are you referring to by "not in some places"?

It is an indisputable fact that multiple factors contribute to the rate of infection in a given area.

Can you cite a credible medical authority to support your assertion that only mass exposure will help?

 

[miamited]

Hi @power1

Abortion too? Voting fraud?

Honestly I'm not sure what Trump's position is on abortion. Yes, he placed a few judges that he believed to be anti-abortion, although none of them have yet come out strongly against the practice. He actually changed his position from being ok with abortion to joining the pro-life side about a year before the 2016 election. At a time when he was actively wooing the evangelical vote. If I had to guess, based on the evidence of Trump's life to this point, his change was merely a tactic to garner a voting block.

On voter fraud, absolutely every word out of his mouth regarding this subject is wrong.

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

Hi @power1

Some almost totally vaccinated countries do get some of the highest sick numbers. Why is that?
Israel, Widely Vaccinated, Suffers Another Covid-19 Surge

Again poor reading comprehension.

The article never says how many Israelis are vaccinated. It does say that a third of the over 60 age group have received the booster.

Israeli police can now be seen patrolling streets and malls and showing up at weddings and other events to ensure people are wearing masks and that they have been fully vaccinated. Those bucking health regulations face large fines.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...e-already-been-inoculated-for-covid-1.9626604

If you read this article from Israel's news, you'll find that Israel is pushing harder than most other nations for people to get vaccinated and boosted. They are even now considering the un-boosted to not be vaccinated after 6 months of receiving the original doses.

Keep in mind that no one has ever said that Covid will just go away with vaccination. The claim has always been that people can still carry the virus, but there will be much, much less hospitalization and death. Those two claims are proving true.

BTW Israel has nowhere near the highest 'sick number'. At the time of the linked article there were 719 serious covid cases. Here in the U.S. we've been beating that number every day for months. The U.K. had 588 DEATHS!!!!! in the last 7 days. You really do go in for sensationalism don't you?

God bless,
Ted

 

[A_Thinker]

"
No country can boost its way out of the pandemic,” said the World Health Organization’s Secretary General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus Wednesday.

“Blanket booster programs are likely to prolong the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than ending it, by diverting supply to countries that already have high levels of vaccination coverage, giving the virus more opportunity to spread and mutate.”

Nor should a third dose of vaccine be seen as carte blanche, he added. “Boosters cannot be seen as a ticket to go ahead with planned celebrations.”

WHO warns booster campaigns prolonging pandemic

So neither shots nor boosters are an 'excuse' to enjoy gatherings..or seemingly anything else at all!

Vaccinations/boosters are a way of avoiding severe COVID disease.

The WHO has been wrong before ...

 

[cow451]

The WHO has been wrong before ...

The Who won't get fooled again.

 

[renniks]

"
No country can boost its way out of the pandemic,” said the World Health Organization’s Secretary General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus Wednesday.

“Blanket booster programs are likely to prolong the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than ending it, by diverting supply to countries that already have high levels of vaccination coverage, giving the virus more opportunity to spread and mutate.”

Nor should a third dose of vaccine be seen as carte blanche, he added. “Boosters cannot be seen as a ticket to go ahead with planned celebrations.”

WHO warns booster campaigns prolonging pandemic

So neither shots nor boosters are an 'excuse' to enjoy gatherings..or seemingly anything else at all!

The point is control over what you can do, even down to whether you can gather with your family.

 

[power1]

Just about everybody

Still, I take gossip with a grain of salt.

that one had somekind of profanity in the web address. Sounds very trustworthy for a conspiracy theorist

Any other excuses?

You "suspect 'they' check before 'they' publish a story. Who is checking?

We could ask that of all media. Chances are if they have an editor, stories might be vetted.
"Why is Fox News, or Newsmax not a credible source, while the New York Times and Washington Post are considered credible sources? The Post and the Times have had to retract stories or have been sued over alleged false or defamatory claims. Recently, both media outlets have had to correct a misleading story regarding former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani; they reported that the FBI had briefed Giuliani that he was being targeted by Russian spies. Alan Dershowitz is suing CNN for $300 million because he claims the network unfairly characterized and edited a statement he made while representing Donald Trump at the Senate impeachment trial in 2020."
Who fact-checks the fact checkers?

You don't even know. What are they checking? You have no source other than disgruntled employees and conspiracy artists.

Experience working in a sinister place counts. At least their claims can be weighed in. Unlike the censored mass media.

This person's opinion on Onicron, if it even is true, vaccines are even more important because it prevents fatalities over 90% of the time whereas 87% of covid cases in the ICU are UNVACCINATED. Unvaccinated people die from covid. Take your own chances but don't come on here saying covid is some kind of hoax.

How does the vax help if it..well, doesn't matter?
newsGP - COVID surges in one of world’s most vaccinated nations

Post another conspiracy site, they are so funny. Try to find one without profanity in the web address. It won't post right otherwise.

OK

Robert Malone, Inventor of mRNA Vaccine Tech, Banned by Twitter For Exposing Risks of Covid-19 Vaccines

Robert Malone, Inventor of mRNA Vaccine Tech, Banned by Twitter For Exposing Risks of Covid-19 Vaccines

 

[miamited]

Hi @power1

Robert Malone, Inventor of mRNA Vaccine Tech, Banned by Twitter For Exposing Risks of Covid-19 Vaccines

Robert Malone, Inventor of mRNA Vaccine Tech, Banned by Twitter For Exposing Risks of Covid-19 Vaccines

Of course, once again, that isn't what the linked article says. It merely says that the good Dr. is not on board with mandates, because the vaccines are not yet licensed and authorized. Therefore, he feels they are still in the experimental phase and shouldn't be mandated because they are not fully tested and licensed. Nothing in that article says anything about the good Dr. 'exposing risks of covid-19 vaccines'.

Sorry, wrong again.

God bless,
Ted

 

[power1]

We should parably move along, then.

OK. Consider this the last word.

 

[power1]

What are you referring to by "not in some places"?

It is an indisputable fact that multiple factors contribute to the rate of infection in a given area.

Can you cite a credible medical authority to support your assertion that only mass exposure will help?

I am talking about almost totally vaxxed countries that got hit with some of the highest sick numbers.

 

[miamited]

Hi @power1

I am talking about almost totally vaxxed countries that got hit with some of the highest sick numbers.

No you aren't. You're talking about Israel which is neither almost totally vaxxed nor has it been 'hit with some of the highest sick numbers'.

What you're doing is making things up that sound good to you and twisting articles to make some non-sensical point.

God bless,
Ted

 

[power1]

Vaccinations/boosters are a way of avoiding severe COVID disease.

The WHO has been wrong before ...

They may be a way. However the would be messiahs of health offer it as THE way...or else. Despite the death and suffering it causes. They have discouraged and mocked possibly life saving alternative treatments. etc