If booster is useless or worse, what is the point of any of this?

[power1]

Others just don't like the stories they cover. They must always retract a story that cannot be verified unless it's an editorial. Even then, they can't out and out lie without having trouble with the FCC.

Elon Musk exposes CNN lie that hospitals not received ventilators
Podcast Renk Int. With Rep Meijer Concerning His Interview On CNN
The List Of CNN’s Bungled Reporting Is A Sight To Behold

Of course a search will yield an abundance of sites pointing out that truth is not what we expect at such mainstream news sites. So if the fcc sanctions nonsense and lies, well, not my problem.

What they are doing is exposing the lies people you like are telling.

You do not get to call whitleblowers and articles in news sources lies. You can say you chose to believe something else.

example
"He said Twitter's actions to suppress COVID information "has contributed greatly to the collapse in trust in public health." And Harvard epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff said "it's scary" to live in such censorship."
Truth about Pfizer COVID shots getting fiercely suppressed

How can you say that is a lie?

Insurance often does not pay for many forms of alternative medicine. They only pay for mainstream medicine because the outcomes are more verifiable. Meaning insurance only pays for things that are proven to work. I don't know what lawyers are waiting by people's hospital beds for. Maybe they are there to tell them they should have been vaccinated, then they either wouldn't have caught it or it would have been much less symptomatic.

"Dr. Peter McCullough, vice chief of Internal Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas, and the most prolifically published academic physician in his field of heart and kidneys in history, has testified several times lately that there is a shocking suppression of early treatment for COVID-19 in medical literature"
Opinion: We should be questioning the global suppression of early treatment options for COVID-19

Of course when you say proven treatment that again depends on who we ask.

DEFINE_ME

 

[classical5]

Hi @power1

Except that if you've had your vaccination, you're less likely to be hospitalized or die. That's something...to me anyway. There are over 800,000 dead people in the states and several million around the globe. Being fully vaccinated and boostered, I'm confident that my name won't wind up on that list.

Keep in mind 'why' the WHO says the booster campaigns are prolonging the pandemic. It isn't that the booster isn't valuable. Its because booster shots, being a weakened dose of the regulars vaccine, is taking away from the amount of vaccine that could be sent to other countries where even the first shots are needed. So the WHO isn't saying that the vaccination and booster program is bad, as far as its abilities to help us through this crisis. Their complaint is that not enough is being done to get vaccines to other nations where they are needed. If the WHO was saying that the vaccines aren't effective, which seems to be what you're taking out of this report, then they wouldn't be worried about problems with getting the vaccines to other nations now would they?

God bless and Merry Christmas,
Ted

800,000 dead from Covid? I don't believe it.

From the CDC Wonder database, in 2020 there were 350,831 covid deaths. The JAMA Network puts it at 345,323 but adds some explanation - those are deaths with or presumed with covid 19. Not deaths caused by covid, but deaths of people who tested positive for covid or were "presumed" to have had covid.

As of Sept 2020, only 6% of death certificates listed Covid as the only cause of death. For all other deaths, covid may have contributed to some degree, it may not have had anything to do with the death, the person may have died independent of covid.

The CDC also combined Covid into the PIC category which combines pneumonia, influenza, covid. Thats actually the "800,000" number you see.

Explains why flu deaths disappeared in 2020 and 2021, doesn't it. How convenient.
That falls in line with the CDC notice

 

[power1]

800,000 dead from Covid? I don't believe it.

From the CDC Wonder database, in 2020 there were 350,831 covid deaths. The JAMA Network puts it at 345,323 but adds some explanation - those are deaths with or presumed with covid 19. Not deaths caused by covid, but deaths of people who tested positive for covid or were "presumed" to have had covid.

As of Sept 2020, only 6% of death certificates listed Covid as the only cause of death. For all other deaths, covid may have contributed to some degree, it may not have had anything to do with the death, the person may have died independent of covid.

The CDC also combined Covid into the PIC category which combines pneumonia, influenza, covid. Thats actually the "800,000" number you see.

Explains why flu deaths disappeared in 2020 and 2021, doesn't it. How convenient.
That falls in line with the CDC notice

The modus operandi of these fanatics wanting to push their agenda seems clear. A recent example I see in today's news.

"New York state's acting health commissioner admitted at a news conference with Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul that she misled parents about the magnitude of hospitalizations for COVID-19 among children, explaining she raised fears of a concerning trend to "motivate" them to get their children vaccinated."

Top health official: We misled parents to scare them into vaccinating kids

 

[ThisIsMe123]

800,000 dead from Covid? I don't believe it.

Believe what you want, but you're wrong.

From the CDC Wonder database, in 2020 there were 350,831 covid deaths. The JAMA Network puts it at 345,323 but adds some explanation - those are deaths with or presumed with covid 19. Not deaths caused by covid, but deaths of people who tested positive for covid or were "presumed" to have had covid.

As of Sept 2020, only 6% of death certificates listed Covid as the only cause of death. For all other deaths, covid may have contributed to some degree, it may not have had anything to do with the death, the person may have died independent of covid.

The CDC also combined Covid into the PIC category which combines pneumonia, influenza, covid. Thats actually the "800,000" number you see.

Explains why flu deaths disappeared in 2020 and 2021, doesn't it. How convenient.
That falls in line with the CDC notice

Covid anti-vaxxers are still using this same old lie since last year?

 

[rturner76]

Of course a search will yield an abundance of sites pointing out that truth is not what we expect at such mainstream news sites. So if the fcc sanctions nonsense and lies, well, not my problem.

If they got called out for misinformation, they need to retract it or get sanctioned. I never said CNN was a bastion of truth, just that they verify sources. If they got a bogus source and somebody ran with it before verifying, they won't keep their job very long.

You do not get to call whitleblowers and articles in news sources lies. You can say you chose to believe something else.
example
"He said Twitter's actions to suppress COVID information "has contributed greatly to the collapse in trust in public health." And Harvard epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff said "it's scary" to live in such censorship."
Truth about Pfizer COVID shots getting fiercely suppressed

How can you say that is a lie?

I didn't mean to imply the WND website you seem to cite often is all lies. I should say it like many of the stories use unverified information. When you get info from a source, you are supposed to find some independent verification for the facts the source uses. The site you use doesn't seem to do that. It seems to be mostly opinion pieces with unverified facts throughout. You have to compare and contrast stories on multiple outlets to get a better picture than "this guy is saying xyz."

What they are suppressing is unverified claims on individuals who are anti-vaccine. This is not a belief system here, this is testing and the results of that testing. A responsible company will not allow people to post dangerous information that is contrary to what all of the universities and experts agree on.

I think people are mixing science with religion. Something like "I 'believe' the alternative is true and my data is just as valid even though nobody can verify it" It's like a belief system that if the majority believes it, it's probably a lie.

 

[classical5]

Believe what you want, but you're wrong.



Covid anti-vaxxers are still using this same old lie since last year?

So you don't believe the CDC when they don't agree with your bias. Don't you guys run around saying "Science! Science!" LOL sorry but you totally FAIL.