ID is officially dead.

[Estrid]

Yeah lots of them therefore, don't necessarily have a purpose .. especially when there's no possibility of a design.

Returning to this.

I'd like to see an example of an artifact that meets these criteria.

From my reading in archeology, I've seen that
stone age artifacts may be difficult to distinguish
from naturally occurring items (that may have
been used as tools) or otherwise seem maybe to
have been tools.

A flint biface is usually considered an artifact though it was
a by- product of flint knapping a specific tool and just left
where it fell.

In such cases the purpose behind its existence is evident enough.

A general purpose, universally applicable means
of determining if something is man made seems elusive.
Something along the lines of "could not have
occurred by any natural means".

"No possibility of a design" might be worked in somewhere too.

Things like "irreducible complexity" get introduced to make claims
for design and purpose that can only be achieved by intelligent
intervention by of course, God.

So- how do you think one can distinguish between something
that can only exist through intelligent design, and what can occur
naturally?

 

[SelfSim]

Could you summarize the process, maybe show
how it applies to divers artifacts, and even, if you've time, distinguishing same from a non- objective scientific process?

The process is called the scientific process. Its widely taught in schools and universities. Perhaps you could embark on a career in science and find out for yourself?
It differs from a non-objective process by way of not relying on beliefs.

I've objectively observed that you again failed to give an example of an artifact with no possibility of design.

You completely miss the point and I seriously doubt further conversations on the matter will assist you in understanding it. Good luck with your future conflicts ..

 

[SelfSim]

Xx

What is this? Some kind of cryptic ego-inflation post? Pfftt!

 

[SelfSim]

So- how do you think one can distinguish between something that can only exist through intelligent design, and what can occur naturally?

Already answered. Otherwise, go ask an IDer for whatever you're seeking to gain by asking that question.