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It happened in 161 BC. You need to stick with scripture and not borrow it to stake a future claim.
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It happened in 161 BC. You need to stick with scripture and not borrow it to stake a future claim.The abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12 is time of the end based on Daniel 12:4.
It? what? The abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12 and Matthew 24:15 is end times, as is the great tribulation it triggers, which will be not be equaled ever again, and if not cut short no flesh would survive.It happened in 161 BC. You need to stick with scripture and not borrow it to stake a future claim.
Jesus fulfilled the 70th week. Matthew 24 proves it. And you deny this and turn Christ into Antichrist.....It? what? The abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11 -12 and Matthew 24:15 is end times, as is the great tribulation it triggers, which will be not be equaled ever again, and if not cut short no flesh would survive.
Jesus will fulfill the 70 weeks when in returns at the end of the 70 week, completing the olivet discourse.Jesus fulfilled the 70th week. Matthew 24 proves it. And you deny this and turn Christ into Antichrist.....
How can you prove a gap in the 70 weeks scripture does not mention or allow for?Jesus will fulfill the 70 weeks when in returns at the end of the 70 week, completing the olivet discourse.
You are the one turning Christ into the Antichrist, interpretatively.
The 70th week is described separately from the previous 69 weeks in Daniel 9. The Olivet discourse in Matthew 24 and the parable of the fig tree identifying the generation that will see the things take place in Matthew 24:15-30 confirms that the 70th week is still unfulfilled.How can you prove a gap in the 70 weeks scripture does not mention or allow for?
This proves nothing. Was the Babylonian captivity 69 years and still pending. The 7 days of creation only 5 and not finished yet?The 70th week is described separately from the previous 69 weeks. The Olivet discourse in Matthew 24 and the parable of the fig tree identifying the generation that will see the things take place in Matthew 24:15-30 confirms that the 70th week is still unfulfilled.
Which are on my chart of the 7 year 70th week.
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Stopping of the daily sacrifice. When? On day 1260? Or in the middle part of the 7 years, as I have said?
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
1st seal - White horse with crown and bow who conquers the world: Covid-19
2nd seal - Red horse with sword who brings conflict: Race riots
3rd seal - Black horse with scales and hunger: Food system collapses this autumn
4th seal - Pale horse with pestilence: 2nd Wave this winter
5th seal - White robes under the altar: Mass purge of Christians by the world
6th seal - Wrath of God (earthquakes, fire, the whole butt-kicking-for-goodness magubbins)
7th seal - Kingdom established
Probably wrong, but it fits.
Assuming that you have children, who at one time were at a young age. You loudly say from your porch.... "Kids, get out of the middle of street!" where they were playing. Did you mean for them to step a few feet off of the centerline?You say sometime around the middle, Gods Word says in the middle!
Assuming that you have children, who at one time were at a young age. You loudly say from your porch.... "Kids, get out of the middle of street!" where they were playing. Did you mean for them to step a few feet off of the centerline?
The middle of the street did not mean the centerline.
The midst of the week does not mean limited to the exact middle day. But middle part of the week.
Nothing needs to be changed in Daniel 9:27; it is your understanding of what is meant by midst of the week that needs to be rethought by you.... not to be limited to an exact day.
There are 3 sets of weeks in Daniel's prophecy - the first 7 weeks (49 years) + the next 3 score and 2 weeks (434 years)....then the final, Messianic week. If there's no gap between the first 7 weeks and the following 62 weeks, why would there be a gap between the 62 weeks and the 70th?The 70th week is described separately from the previous 69 weeks in Daniel 9.
The AoD around 2 centuries BC was the end of the first Temple (which is what Jesus was bringing to their minds in Matthew 24:15, I believe). IOW....He was drawing a parallel that history was going to repeat in their generation.It? what? The abomination of desolation in Daniel 12:11-12 and Matthew 24:15 is end times, as is the great tribulation it triggers, which will be not be equaled ever again, and if not cut short no flesh would survive.
Because there is the 2000 years in the Olivet discourse for the time of the gentiles which the Jews have been forced into the nations.There are 3 sets of weeks in Daniel's prophecy - the first 7 weeks (49 years) + the next 3 score and 2 weeks (434 years)....then the final, Messianic week. If there's no gap between the first 7 weeks and the following 62 weeks, why would there be a gap between the 62 weeks and the 70th?
Basically agree. But can you just expand were you think Matthew 24 proves it. Thanks.Jesus fulfilled the 70th week. Matthew 24 proves it. And you deny this and turn Christ into Antichrist.....
The AOD committed by Antiochus - yes.The AoD around 2 centuries BC was the end of the first Temple (which is what Jesus was bringing to their minds in Matthew 24:15, I believe). IOW....He was drawing a parallel that history was going to repeat in their generation.
Please elaborate on this.Because there is the 2000 years in the Olivet discourse for the time of the gentiles which the Jews have been forced into the nations.
When the time clock begins in 457 BC (the time that the beginning of the building begins - Ezra 7:1-27).....69 weeks (483 years) brings the year to 27 AD. Are you sure you want to cut off those years (27 AD - 34 AD)?There is no gap between the first 7 weeks and the 62 weeks - because that 7 weeks is when the command goes out to rebuild Jerusalem and its walls. Which the Jews by the series of commands by Artaxeres and Cyrus come back to Israel and begin rebuilding the city and walls.
From Jesus's death, cutoff in Daniel 9:26, the gap is because the Jews rejected Jesus and were forced into the nations, as the time of the gentiles occupying Jerusalem was over, 2000 years later.
We only know the length of time for the time of the gentiles as being 2000 years - because we know 1948 and 1967. 20/20 hindsight.Please elaborate on this.
This is our basic disagreement.Because it conflicts to where you have placed the sixth seal - which your whole scenario is based on.
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