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Well, if you are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you shouldnt be feeling like giving up on God. Is there something in your life blocking you receiving from God. I'm guessing self pity (why always me) might be in there which has its route in pride. I know it blocks God from moving because I have been there in the past. There may be other pride issues linked to that as well, such as thinking I dont deserve this. I know that I am a filthy sinner by nature and need Jesus salvation. We are all worthless in ourselves but God loves us anyway and gave His Son for us. We have done nothing to earn it or deserve it.

I think it was this post where I read something about blaming God for the problems in the world, but he gave man dominion over the world and we have created this mess ourselves. We can give dominion back to God for our own lives but not for others. Man has done a very good job of getting things wrong and when the majority of mankind say they dont want God in their lives he allows them to have their way. Dont blame Him for that.

We were created in Gods image, I believe God, like us, wants people to like Him and to love Him of their own free will, not because He makes them. By saying you are ready to give up on God you are saying that you only want to be a Christian on your terms, not because of who He is.

And to give you hope for the future if you choose God of your own free will things should get better. I was like that once and am in a good place now, this week I even saw a cripple healed when I and 3 other people prayed for him. He went from falling over when he let go of his walking stick to running after we prayed. You wont be in the position to see God do things like that if you give up. We are called to persevere.
 
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Well, if you are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you shouldnt be feeling like giving up on God. Is there something in your life blocking you receiving from God. I'm guessing self pity (why always me) might be in there which has its route in pride. I know it blocks God from moving because I have been there in the past. There may be other pride issues linked to that as well, such as thinking I dont deserve this. I know that I am a filthy sinner by nature and need Jesus salvation. We are all worthless in ourselves but God loves us anyway and gave His Son for us. We have done nothing to earn it or deserve it.

I think it was this post where I read something about blaming God for the problems in the world, but he gave man dominion over the world and we have created this mess ourselves. We can give dominion back to God for our own lives but not for others. Man has done a very good job of getting things wrong and when the majority of mankind say they dont want Go in their lives he allows them to have their way. Dont blame Him for that.

We were created in Gods image, I believe God, like us, wants people to like Him and to love Him of their own free will, not because He makes them. By saying you are ready to give up on God you are saying that you only want to be a Christian on your terms, not because of who He is.

And to give you hope for the future if you choose God of your own free will things should get better. I was like that once and am in a good place now, this week I even saw a cripple healed when I and 3 other people prayed for him. He went from falling over when he let go of his walking stick to running after we prayed. You wont be in the position to see God do things like that if you give up. We are called to persevere.

No. I don't get why its self pity to wonder why things are going wrong in your life.
 
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Playing favorites is wrong. I think it is just that God is not all powerful and he cant heal everyone. It is sad but that is what I have come to believe because of my kidnapping and rape.

Understandably! This is an issue as old as the belief in YHWH. You have taken the logical way out of this delema. Paganism never had this problem because the deities were neither all powerful or good. Paganism is another way to solve this problem.

It might be that all the troubles of this world are the natural, the norm, and that which should be expected on earth - or in other words, all earthly troubles are void of the divine will, but not of His superintendence. Is it, all that is good is the true mystery of life - rather than the mystery being all that is trouble?

If YHWH announced that He would wipe out all that was evil on the earth at 12:35 today then at 12:36 the earth would be uninhabited.

The power of evil is that it is so very pervasive. It either dominates our thoughts with passion, desire, revenge, and hate or it dominates our heart with disappointment, pain, suffering, and torment. Evil provides no peace or contentment.

The weakness of evil is in that it is always destructive and never constructive. Sooner or latter evil runs out of something to tear down or destroy. That is why evil's primary focus is the corruption of babies and the next generation through drugs, entertainment, and bad parents.

If all God's children understood the vital nature of all the influences upon children, then maybe they would rise up against evil.

The problem of evil permeates rational actions. The random storm, the poverty, the famine, the war, the illness, the criminal, the diabolic, and the wayward, are the ether from which all of man's progressive attempts are struggling to wrench himself and society. We endeavor with flood controls, storm warnings, insurance, education, social programs, aide to relieve famine, treaties, medicine, courts, laws and enforcement, jails, and drugs and therapy for the wayward - just to skim the top of our endeavors. There is a place for each of these human efforts in combating evil, and every child of God should apply some of their talents toward this battle.

What then when the problem of evil becomes personal, then rational actions trivialize the suffering you receive from evil's mauling?

The quickest and surest relief would be if we were allowed to see what the angels see. In a sense that is what the revelation of God does. The most effective use of the Bible is when the Holy Spirit of God works within us in times of trials and tribulation to illuminate revelation to our personal encounter with the non-understandable destruction by evil.


The problem of evil assumes the existence of a world-purpose.
What, we are really asking, is the purpose of suffering? It seems purposeless. Our question of the why of evil assumes the view that the world has a purpose, and what we want to know is how suffering fits into and advances this purpose. The post modern view is that suffering has no purpose because nothing that happens has any purpose: the world is run by causes, not by purposes.
... W. T. Stace, Religion and the Modern Mind [1953]

We are apt to overlook the hand and heart of God in our afflictions, and to consider them as mere accidents, and unavoidable evils. This view makes them absolute and positive evils, which admit of (allows) no remedy or relief. If we view our troubles and trials aside from the divine design and agency in them, we cannot be comforted.
... Nathaniel Emmons (1745-1840)
 
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Well, if you are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you shouldnt be feeling like giving up on God. Is there something in your life blocking you receiving from God. I'm guessing self pity (why always me) might be in there which has its route in pride. I know it blocks God from moving because I have been there in the past. There may be other pride issues linked to that as well, such as thinking I dont deserve this. I know that I am a filthy sinner by nature and need Jesus salvation. We are all worthless in ourselves but God loves us anyway and gave His Son for us. We have done nothing to earn it or deserve it.

I think it was this post where I read something about blaming God for the problems in the world, but he gave man dominion over the world and we have created this mess ourselves. We can give dominion back to God for our own lives but not for others. Man has done a very good job of getting things wrong and when the majority of mankind say they dont want God in their lives he allows them to have their way. Dont blame Him for that.

We were created in Gods image, I believe God, like us, wants people to like Him and to love Him of their own free will, not because He makes them. By saying you are ready to give up on God you are saying that you only want to be a Christian on your terms, not because of who He is.

And to give you hope for the future if you choose God of your own free will things should get better. I was like that once and am in a good place now, this week I even saw a cripple healed when I and 3 other people prayed for him. He went from falling over when he let go of his walking stick to running after we prayed. You wont be in the position to see God do things like that if you give up. We are called to persevere.

Seeing myself as a "filthy sinner" won't do anything for me imo. My self image is already messed up.
 
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"'If you think I don't know anything about you or the situation you're in, you're right, I don't, but God does and he told me all about it. I don't mean to upset you, I only want you to know the love of God Almighty, and that complaining won't change anything. I know that you've been through a lot, and that you have Heartaches, Pain, And Sorrows, but you don't have to wallow in them. You probably think I don't know because I haven't been through it myself. And you're right I haven't been through it myself, but do you know what I've been through? I died. I went to heaven and came back, I was three old so I don't remember anything about, only that it happened. So when I say I want to help, I mean it.'"
 

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Well, if you are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you shouldnt be feeling like giving up on God. Is there something in your life blocking you receiving from God. I'm guessing self pity (why always me) might be in there which has its route in pride. I know it blocks God from moving because I have been there in the past. There may be other pride issues linked to that as well, such as thinking I dont deserve this. I know that I am a filthy sinner by nature and need Jesus salvation. We are all worthless in ourselves but God loves us anyway and gave His Son for us. We have done nothing to earn it or deserve it.

I think it was this post where I read something about blaming God for the problems in the world, but he gave man dominion over the world and we have created this mess ourselves. We can give dominion back to God for our own lives but not for others. Man has done a very good job of getting things wrong and when the majority of mankind say they dont want God in their lives he allows them to have their way. Dont blame Him for that.

We were created in Gods image, I believe God, like us, wants people to like Him and to love Him of their own free will, not because He makes them. By saying you are ready to give up on God you are saying that you only want to be a Christian on your terms, not because of who He is.

And to give you hope for the future if you choose God of your own free will things should get better. I was like that once and am in a good place now, this week I even saw a cripple healed when I and 3 other people prayed for him. He went from falling over when he let go of his walking stick to running after we prayed. You wont be in the position to see God do things like that if you give up. We are called to persevere.
So you're saying things should get better? And if they don't something is wrong...is that what you're saying..?
 
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"'If you think I don't know anything about you or the situation you're in, you're right, I don't, but God does and he told me all about it. I don't mean to upset you, I only want you to know the love of God Almighty, and that complaining won't change anything. I know that you've been through a lot, and that you have Heartaches, Pain, And Sorrows, but you don't have to wallow in them. You probably think I don't know because I haven't been through it myself. And you're right I haven't been through it myself, but do you know what I've been through? I died. I went to heaven and came back, I was three old so I don't remember anything about, only that it happened. So when I say want to help, I mean it.'"
Is this copy and pasted?
 
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Is this copy and pasted?

No, it's Original. I love writing. So I usually sort of Go all out, so to speak. That link is safe, it's the Legislator Report of my Death in the house fire.
 
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No, it's Original. I love writing. So I usually sort of Go all out, so to speak. That link is safe, it's the Legislator Report of my Death in the house fire.

Though it doesn't mention my death, or how a bean bag saved my life.
 
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No, it's Original. I love writing. So I usually sort of Go all out, so to speak. That link is safe, it's the Legislator Report of my Death in the house fire.
Oh wow. I thought since it was in quotations it was copy and pasted. ...ill defintely read, thanks.
 
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No. I don't get why its self pity to wonder why things are going wrong in your life.
I only said could be self pity because I have been there. Maybe its something else but you are not living in the fullness of God, that is clear. I have also been hurt by a pastor and for a few years I was the only one that recognised he had gone astray and had the courage to stand up to him. I felt God was keeping me in that church for that reason though so I stayed. It took a couple of years before I really started to recover.

The parable of the sower and parable of the weeds comes to mind, Matthew 13:1-29. You need firm roots established in the love of God to grow (persevere) through the weeds (difficulties of this world).
 
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I only said could be self pity because I have been there. Maybe its something else but you are not living in the fullness of God, that is clear. I have also been hurt by a pastor and for a few years I was the only one that recognised he had gone astray and had the courage to stand up to him. I felt God was keeping me in that church for that reason though so I stayed. It took a couple of years before I really started to recover.

The parable of the sower and parable of the weeds comes to mind, Matthew 13:1-29. You need firm roots established in the love of God to grow (persevere) through the weeds (difficulties of this world).

Yeah I'm defintely not living in the fullness of God.
 
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I think if I'm gonna do this... I'm gonna let everything go. All my friends-- everything...I just want to start over alone. Maybe that's what I need to do.

Hmmm . . . Wish I could do my life over . . . . only if I could start from today with what I now know. But . . . . but . . . that is counting on me being better than I have been in the past. The Bible - the inspired divine revelation tells me it is not about do overs because I am going to do it over again just like the first time. (All have sinned). I know myself. I am hopelessly wicked. The only thing that restrains me is my residence in Christ.

Two of the things which the reason of man can never conclude but which are absolutely essential for a life in Christ. Speak unto the Lord your gratitude in every way you can imagine, and use it as a greeting to all who ask, "How are you?" It does not matter if you are grateful or not . . just keep on saying the things you are grateful for. Start with this one: "I am better off then seven billion other people in this world."

The second thing which usually cannot be seen until you have practiced this for years. Say this and watch for the divine interventions and learn from the obvious, "Everything . . . everything . . . every meeting, every greeting, every tragedy, and every blessing is not a coincidence but occurs in my life by divine superintendence."

I believe this about this post.
 
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Seeing myself as a "filthy sinner" won't do anything for me imo. My self image is already messed up.
Mine too. Thats exactly why i love the Lord. Only He can shine hope in my darkness, and turn my ashes to beauty.
 
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For me it helped being around a church that believed in the holy spirit (certain denominational churches quench the spirit and don't believe in it being a thing anymore)

If you don't have the luxury of that though it helps to just cry out to God at home for his spirit and pray. I feel you've been praying and seeking God but maybe not the holy spirit. Pray of course thanking God and acknowledging him, then denying self of course and asking him to lead, but then cry out to God seeking the holy ghost that was promised to us since pentecost.

The bible says call and he will answer...but then it says now that you've called cry out and he will say here I am.
 
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Anyway, read my first long post, it was meant for you and you alone, God Almighty showed me everything to write, as per usual. God Gives me the words and I write them. It's how he uses my talent.
Speaking of talents, what's your favorite thing to do? I like Reading, Writing, Running, never away only towards my Goal, Listening to Christian music, and other stuff.

Speaking of Christian Music, What do you think about Hollyn? Or Toby Mac, I have a lot of CDs with only Christian Music, and I put it on my phone and it totals to Just over nine hundred songs, I kid you not, nine hundred.

Actually I was thinking, after we take care of all of this stuff, we could be friends, that is if you stay a Christian, I can't fellowship with anyone but Christians, HOWEVER, if you choose to stay with God, well let's just say God sent me here for a reason. I'll be your friend, a good Christian friend. I think that's what we all need right now. Someone close, who follows after God Almighty, and if things go well, WELL, I get to say what I've been wanting to say from the very first post that you posted, "Welcome Home Sister."

What do you say, will you be my friend? If so just remember, I'm only a man, don't put your trust in me, put your trust in the Lord our God Almighty. If you can't right off the bat, that's okay, just trust the Jesus who lives in me. The Jesus who LOVES you, and wants to answer your prayers through me and others.

I'll ask again because I really want you to say yes, will you be my friend?
 
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The world is harsh. It is fallen, and we are surrounded by our adversaries. Your friend is not strong enough to bare his burden, and you are not strong enough to bare your own and his and so he must bare it in the same loneliness as you feel. That shouldn't just make you sad, it should make you angry. You have a right to be angry. But instead of retreating turn those feelings into resolve and conviction to become strong and BE the hands of Christ in this world. We are His hands, we are His feet, the body of Christ is us. Set in your heart to never let anyone else feel like you or your friend feels again. Grow in the strength of the Lord so that next time you will be strong enough to be there for the suffering in the world.
 
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