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I may give evolution a shot.

Jaci Fan

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armed2010 said:
Jaci Fan- Jesus said we would be persecuted for the truth and taking His word as truth

Ya, i assumed as much

your not proving anything here? a true evolutionist

I said Jesus said we would be persecuted but where is the post of me saying one of you guys are persecuting me?

you made that up
;)
 
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Pete Harcoff said:
Evolution is also testable. One of the big tests the discovery of genetics and the confirmation of the fossil evidence relative to the genetic evidence.
Genetics has done little in terms of proving evolutionary theory, and the fossil record is a bigger problem than it is a help for you. Over millions of years, you guys claim that massive changes took place. But many examples in the fossil record don't help your claims. One such example can be found at:

Spot the difference
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/difference.asp

God bless.
 
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Jaci Fan said:
Real science says Life comes from Life

absord that in

then absorb it in some more

:wave:
No. Real science says that life originally came from non-life. In fact, they can produce life from non-life in the lab nowadays.

And real science says that that original life form evolved into the diversity of species that we see around us.



Name 20 modern biologists who do not accept evolution - in fact, name 5.
 
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David Gould said:
No. Real science says that life originally came from non-life. In fact, they can produce life from non-life in the lab nowadays.

And real science says that that original life form evolved into the diversity of species that we see around us.



Name 20 modern biologists who do not accept evolution - in fact, name 5.

NAME SOMEONE OTHER THAN GOD INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO CREATE A PERFECTLY DESIGNED BEAUTIFUL CREATION WORLD WITH EVERYTHING IN IT?
 
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Im curious, did you ever go to my link? Here it is again,
http://www.christianforums.com/t60635

Maybe you can answer the question,
can you give us a basic explination of the theory of evolution?

I notice this question is always dodged, I wonder why? ;)

dctalkexp said:
Genetics has done little in terms of proving evolutionary theory, and the fossil record is a bigger problem than it is a help for you. Over millions of years, you guys claim that massive changes took place. But many examples in the fossil record don't help your claims. One such example can be found at:

Spot the difference
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i3/difference.asp

God bless.
 
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Jaci Fan said:
your not proving anything here? a true evolutionist

I said Jesus said we would be persecuted but where is the post of me saying one of you guys are persecuting me?

you made that up
;)
This post makes me suspect that Jaci Fan is a troll. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but the sensors tingled a little ...
 
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Jaci Fan said:
NAME SOMEONE OTHER THAN GOD INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO CREATE A PERFECTLY DESIGNED BEAUTIFUL CREATION WORLD WITH EVERYTHING IN IT?
Caps lock stuck? ;) And our world isnt created perfectly for us, we adapted to it. What your doing is the equivilant of a puddle saying that the hole its in was created perfectly for it.
 
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David Gould said:
No. Real science says that life originally came from non-life. In fact, they can produce life from non-life in the lab nowadays.
False. Why do you evolutionists often lie to try to prove something. It's better to work with the truth. Give me any documented example where life has come fom non-life. Let's see a cell assemble itself from non-living matter.
 
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Jaci Fan said:
NAME SOMEONE OTHER THAN GOD INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO CREATE A PERFECTLY DESIGNED BEAUTIFUL CREATION WORLD WITH EVERYTHING IN IT?
What has that got to do with it? You are arguing that "real science" says that life only comes from life. Give me the names of some real live scientists who say this.

Or are you admitting that you do not know squat about science, 'real' or otherwise?
 
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dctalkexp said:
Thank you for your visual aid, but it does little to help your case. You calim that the changes are so minute, that it is impossible to see evolution on a big-scale in our life time. Well, in order to suppoert this theory, you have to show at least some examples of how anamolies in the DNA can produce at least a slightly new and improved anatomical structure. Can you?

Yes.

Almost all of the minute changes we see in organisms are detrimental to it. They are a far cry from evolution of the microbes to man sort. Change = evolution, but change does not = the theory of evolution proven by any means.

Actually, most changes are neutral, not detrimental. Furthermore, as long as there is a capacity for beneficial mutations (and there is), then selection will gravitate that paricular gene to become fixed in a population.

Observation shows that things devolve, more or less.

Not really. That's just more of a semantics game than anything, since evolution itself is not "directed" as such, except to adapt populations of organisms for their respective environments.
 
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dctalkexp said:
False. Why do you evolutionists often lie to try to prove something. It's better to work with the truth. Give me any documented example where life has come fom non-life. Let's see a cell assemble itself from non-living matter.

exactly dc!! exactly!
 
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