I may give evolution a shot.

[Mr_Coffee]

You see, I believe in God, and Jesus. Not in every theory that people make. Dont get that confused with facts. Scientific law are eventualy proved wrong (Look at past science over the last 2000+ years). But not all science is wrong. But much is proved wrong later.

Sorry if you missunder stood me. And that I may have confused you.

Just because science make something a law, does not mean its true. As far as we know it would be true though.

Bye

...? The word "science" has existed for only about since the 18th century. Before that, it was known as "Natural Philosphy" - a discipline that involved proving god's existence by observing the world's features. Since the term 'science' has been around, everything discovered during that timeframe has generally disproved archaic 2000 year old ideas. Geocentrism was first, Creationism was next, yet there are ignorant die-hard dreamers who refuse to accept this.

 

[Jaci Fan]

...? The word "science" has existed for only about since the 18th century. Before that, it was known as "Natural Philosphy" - a discipline that involved proving god's existence by observing the world's features. Since the term 'science' has been around, everything discovered during that timeframe has generally disproved archaic 2000 year old ideas. Geocentrism was first, Creationism was next, yet there are ignorant die-hard dreamers who refuse to accept this.

this is a no brainer.. small children can get this

Real Science teaches that all Life comes from Life

end of story.. the theory of evolution is monkey buisness!! oops thats their point isn't it? hehe

Its just sad because evolutionist have so many theorys and fairy tales you can't help but not to chuckle.. they put all their hard work and research to Never finding diddly and they just Force themselves to believe lies and then they teach their lies to others!

evolutionist dont have an arguement but give them a banana stickin to there excuses to sin! -shakes head-

 

[David Gould]

Jaci Fan: single handedly shaking my faith in humanity.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

(borrowing a page from Arikay's book...)

Jaci Fan, what is the theory of evolution?

 

[armed2010]

HAHAHAH the After Eden stuff!!! [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] that stuff was hilarious. A forum I go to once had a huge thread where they photoshopped a ton of those comics which almost made them as hilarious as the original ones.

 

[dctalkexp]

...? The word "science" has existed for only about since the 18th century. Before that, it was known as "Natural Philosphy" - a discipline that involved proving god's existence by observing the world's features. Since the term 'science' has been around, everything discovered during that timeframe has generally disproved archaic 2000 year old ideas. Geocentrism was first, Creationism was next, yet there are ignorant die-hard dreamers who refuse to accept this.

Geocentrism was never taught by the Bible. It talks about the appearance of the sun rising, etc., however, many scientists do the same thing today. Unless they are also teaching geocentrism, you have no case to say that the Bible teaches it. Creationism is different, the Bible clearly teaches that God created the universe by His powerful Word. It is written in historical narrative, and to further prove its literalism Jesus Christ talked about the beginning in Genesis as literal history. Sorry, Creationism hasn't been done away with, only by ignorant dreamers, maybe,

 

[dctalkexp]

this is a no brainer.. small children can get this

Real Science teaches that all Life comes from Life

end of story.. the theory of evolution is monkey buisness!! oops thats their point isn't it? hehe

Its just sad because evolutionist have so many theorys and fairy tales you can't help but not to chuckle.. they put all their hard work and research to Never finding diddly and they just Force themselves to believe lies and then they teach their lies to others!


evolutionist dont have an arguement but give them a banana stickin to there excuses to sin! -shakes head-

It is a rather simple principle of life, isn't it Jaci? Life forms only come from life of that same fundamental type. That's science, that's knowledge. Observation clearly shows that life is designed to come from the same type of animal. That is a basic law and basic proof and evidence of Creationism. However, fundi-evolutionists will be convinced by nothing.

God bless.

 

[armed2010]

[/i]
Geocentrism was never taught by the Bible. It talks about the appearance of the sun rising, etc., however, many scientists do the same thing today. Unless they are also teaching geocentrism, you have no case to say that the Bible teaches it. Creationism is different, the Bible clearly teaches that God created the universe by His powerful Word. It is written in historical narrative, and to further prove its literalism Jesus Christ talked about the beginning in Genesis as literal history. Sorry, Creationism hasn't been done away with, only by ignorant dreamers, maybe,

Creationism has been done away with by looking at the evidence at hand. The only people who believe in creationism are biblical hardliners who refuse to look at the evidence because they feel it threatens their theological viewpoint. The only one ignorant here is you, because you continue to believe in a falsified theory despite all signs pointing away from it.

 

[armed2010]

It is a rather simple principle of life, isn't it Jaci? Life forms only come from life of that same fundamental type. That's science, that's knowledge. Observation clearly shows that life is designed to come from the same type of animal. That is a basic law and basic proof and evidence of Creationism. However, fundi-evolutionists will be convinced by nothing.

God bless.

*sigh* abiongenesis shows that life can come from non life. Someone has a link to an experiment you can do at home that does just that, life from non life.

 

[Jaci Fan]

It is a rather simple principle of life, isn't it Jaci? Life forms only come from life of that same fundamental type. That's science, that's knowledge. Observation clearly shows that life is designed to come from the same type of animal. That is a basic law and basic proof and evidence of Creationism. However, fundi-evolutionists will be convinced by nothing.

God bless.

very true

what evolutionist need to understand is that they need to understand the basic simple Facts of science before they can begin to understand anything really

Life comes from Life
anything beyond this is "tinker bell"

when evolutionist try to debate creation and believe they have a arguement-thats like debating if a bowl of Rocks are as healthy for you as oatmeal
lol

 

[armed2010]

very true

what evolutionist need to understand is that they need to understand the basic simple Facts of science before they can begin to understand anything really

Life comes from Life
anything beyond this is "tinker bell"

when evolutionist try to debate creation and believe they have a arguement-thats like debating if a bowl of Rocks are as healthy for you as oatmeal
lol

lol, this is hilarious. What sort of psuedo science are you trying to sell here?

 

[Pete Harcoff]

It is a rather simple principle of life, isn't it Jaci? Life forms only come from life of that same fundamental type.

In the short term, yes. However, there are minute changes from generation to generation, so given enough generations, those small changes can accumulate and arise in large scale changes. To illustrate this point, I created this handy-dandy visual aid. In the short term "generations", the changes are so minute they are hardly visible. Yet, over an accumulation of generations, the changes are more apparent.

I think a bulk of the problem is trying to conceptualize evolution relative to human life spans. However, it doesn't work, because there are too few changes over small numbers of generations for the effects of evolution to be readily apparent. Hence, you have creationists appeal to the idea that the same "kind" of animal will always produce the same "kind" of animal as offspring, because that is what people are used to seeing relative to their own lifespans.

That's science, that's knowledge. Observation clearly shows that life is designed to come from the same type of animal. That is a basic law and basic proof and evidence of Creationism.

Actually, observation shows that life evolves. Again, however, the changes relative to human lifespans are too small to produce signfigant changes that allows one to classify such changes as from one "type" of animal to another. There is nothing, however, preventing such change given enough generations.

 

[Jaci Fan]

lol, this is hilarious. What sort of psuedo science are you trying to sell here?

im glad you find it funny as we creation do!

them Monkeys are funny!!

Now an evolutionist would consider that flattery right?

calling them monkeys just agrees with them right?

 

[dctalkexp]

Creationism has been done away with by looking at the evidence at hand. The only people who believe in creationism are biblical hardliners who refuse to look at the evidence because they feel it threatens their theological viewpoint. The only one ignorant here is you, because you continue to believe in a falsified theory despite all signs pointing away from it.

A substanceless post deserves no response, but here it is nonetheless.

If evolution were an empirically proven, scientific fact, then I would indeed attempt to harmonize it with Scripture. So you have been misled by fundi-evolutionists, it is not rejected merely on theological grounds, but indeed on scientific as well. But many bull headed biologists et al. refuse to accept the mere possibility of Biblical truth, and thus their science is eroded by philosophical naturalism.

I think you have this twisted. It is evolutionists who refuse falsifiable evidence, because they refuse a Creator. Nothing will convince them.

God bless.

 

[Arikay]

Jaci: Im with pete, can you give us a basic explination of the theory of evolution?

Dctalkexp: Sure it was never taught by the bible.
http://www.geocentricbible.com/
They disagree.

So, these people are ignorant? :
Falsifacation of the global flood - performed by christian geologists in the 19th century.

Theory of evolution - Made famous by a christian, Darwin.

Big Bang theory - Originally thought up by a christian priest.


I guess though god was a deciever, since all the evidence points towards evolution.

And for AIG fans, might I suggest you check out my thread on AIGs evidence, as it seems that "lying for christ" is either not a sin, or they have some repenting to do.

[/i]
Geocentrism was never taught by the Bible. It talks about the appearance of the sun rising, etc., however, many scientists do the same thing today. Unless they are also teaching geocentrism, you have no case to say that the Bible teaches it. Creationism is different, the Bible clearly teaches that God created the universe by His powerful Word. It is written in historical narrative, and to further prove its literalism Jesus Christ talked about the beginning in Genesis as literal history. Sorry, Creationism hasn't been done away with, only by ignorant dreamers, maybe,

 

[armed2010]

im glad you find it funny as we creation do!

them Monkeys are funny!!

Now an evolutionist would consider that flattery right?

calling them monkeys just agrees with them right?

Not really, because thats not what evolution says

 

[armed2010]

A substanceless post deserves no response, but here it is nonetheless.

If evolution were an empirically proven, scientific fact, then I would indeed attempt to harmonize it with Scripture. So you have been misled by fundi-evolutionists, it is not rejected merely on theological grounds, but indeed on scientific as well. But many bull headed biologists et al. refuse to accept the mere possibility of Biblical truth, and thus their science is eroded by philosophical naturalism.

I think you have this twisted. It is evolutionists who refuse falsifiable evidence, because they refuse a Creator. Nothing will convince them.

God bless.

*sigh* Gravity is not empiracly proven, germ theory is not empiracly proven, atomic theory is not empiracly proven, so should we just start disbelieving those also?

 

[dctalkexp]

*sigh* abiongenesis shows that life can come from non life. Someone has a link to an experiment you can do at home that does just that, life from non life.

I am sorry, but this post is totally absurd. There is simply no other way to put it. Learn about abiogenesis before you post non-sense about it. "An experiment you can do at home that does just that." LOL! Please give me directions!

God bless.

 

[dctalkexp]

*sigh* Gravity is not empiracly proven, germ theory is not empiracly proven, atomic theory is not empiracly proven, so should we just start disbelieving those also?

Please just stop. Gravity is an empirically testable theory, so is germ theory, etc. Please don't compare the fallacious historical interpretation of evolution to falsifiable, legit. scientific theories. Thank you.

God bless.

 

[Arikay]

For those that dont want to look, the thread can be found here,
http://www.christianforums.com/t60635

although I dont expect anyone to go to it.

I have also yet to hear anyone answer Pete's question. I doubt it will ever be answered, prove me wrong.