lol your def no scientist as your examples are stereotypical poor examples of the intelligent design theory. If you read into any evolutionary science or atheist literature that will be torn apart quickly. Honestly have you ever read any Hawkings , Dawkins or even Darwin? You do not seem to understand evolution from a scientific point of view, just stereotypical slander. I don't believe any one can honestly make the judgment of who gets into heaven and if there even is one, and an old book isn't going to change that for anyone. Also no is perfect and I never said I was, and if believing in an invisible deity out of fear of hell is the best argument you can make for your religion than I just lost what respect i had for your belief. Besides a one size fits all punishment is completely unjust if you have the slightest understanding of justice. I also do not support any form of torture as a punishment or practice, it is the most repulsive and horrid practice of mankind. To wrap things up I have sought god once in my life, I did for the first 18 years of my life and you know what I still have not found any shred of him once, and I was the kind of person that would pray non stop. Have you ever seriously sought Allah or Krishna? Maybe you should seek them out and give them a try. Also being responsible for your own actions and being self reliant is not selfish, selfish people aren't happy with the life they have and selfish people parade around acting like they know the truth when they have no hard evidence to back up their beliefs.
Hi, you said to the poster your reply to above, about fear and then losing all respect for our beliefs.
Some come to Christ from some preachers teaching fear instead of Christ.
That's minority. We come to Christ, because we believe in Him, and many of us don't even have clue to hell before Christ, as we don't read hte bible till after Christ.
So, i didn't come to christ out of fear, nor do many.
As to evolution again, not a problem..God does not care what we believe about creation as pertains to salvation. It doesn't matter. I believe he created all things..
As to how old the world/earth is, no clue.
Chrisitians, many say 6000 years old due to 2 things, perhaps 3.
One is by genealogy listed in bible, they count back, and come to then day man was created.
They also see 2 scriptures wholly unrealted to creation which say a day to the Lord is like thousand years.
hence God made the world in 6 days, so they figure, means six thousand.
How can the world be six thousand years old when we have stuff millions of lightyears away.
So we've no clue ot how old the earth is by the bible. As after day one, millions of years could've gone by, or after day 2, etc.
So, again, tho doesn't matter as God doesn't say believe i created the world and be saved.
Says believe in Christ and be saved.
I agree it is not selfish in any way to be self reliant.
Many people forget that they were once non christians, and for some reason can not relate any longer.
As a non christian had no clue or thought of God ever, till shortly before coming to Christ.
For name calling to be done by christians to a non christan is not right..
actually many selfish people are very happy..the world revolves around them and their wants and desires... they don't know their selfish or if they do realize, they desire to be that way..but many selfish people are happy for their world is the way they wish it to be as they won't do other than satisfy selfishness..this is only in reply where u said they are not happy..not true.
some are some arent'..
all people, many of us with our flaws, we don't see many of our own flaws ourselves, but others do... this is true of many to all of us, which is why Gods word tells us to be renewed, and to examine our selves. However, we are all human, and the examining we do, is a step by step process and so there's much in us always will be needs changing.. Some seek such, some don't..it is okay, but a person growing in christ will do so, one who doesn't do so, is just at a stage where they don't..they may later, may never...doesn't matter in regards to salvation, still saved..
If you prayed to God and were not a Christian, I can see why you saw it as futile.
See whatever you prayed to was your concept of God.
So, if you prayed to your concept, without belief in Christ, then you weren't praying to God. You were praying to whatever you believe God to be.
In old testament, people prayed to idols, wood, etc. and other little g gods, for weathr, sex gods, etc..
there is only one God.
When people today pray to God, unless they are praying to Christ, Father or Spirit, which to know about they are praying to a god created in their minds.
And without Christ we don't pray to God.
Before i came to Christ, very shortly before, I screamed, God help me. no clue why as didn't know God, never thought of Him in anyway at all.
Within a month approx. I was a Christian
So appears, God heard my non chrisitan prayer, God please help me, and things occured which led me to Christ and salavation.
As to hell you mention above called torturing etc...God is the Creator, we are the created. We do not know better than God, nor do we love more than Him, nor do we have more knowledge than Him.
He doesn't explain why eternity in hell I don't believe, so we just know that for His reasons, He ordained hell to exist and for those who dont believe in Christ to go there on judgement day.
God can do such, and as we've no clue to the many things God does, and not all is given us, we don't know the why's behind things. No one wants anyone to go to hell. But in no way are we better than God to say, i am bettr than God, hence no hell should exist.
blessings,
tapero
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