TheReasoner
Former christian, current teapot agnostic.
Do you think the victims of an execution walks away from the event Clirus?I am disappointed to see you using Straw Man exaggerations also. You are well aware that I only advocate execution under Civil Law. Also, an execution is not a killing.
Execution means you kill the person you're executing dead. It doesn't mean you tickle them or look sternly at them.
Look the word up in a dictionary Clirus:
dictionary said:kill 1 |kil|
verb [ trans. ]
1 cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing)
Doesn't say he should die for that.But lets look at what the Bible says about a man that will not support his children.
I Timothy 5:8 states, "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
And what good would that do? Why this focus on killing everyone?What do you do when you read that statement? Too many Christians do nothing. At the very least a Christian should rebuke a person that fails to provide for his own, and if the person is fails to change, then execution under Civil Law is appropriate.
Sure. You know what else works for evil to flourish? Someone confusing it with good. Like you're doing.I will now go back to the statement, "The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing."
I would suggest you are advocating doing nothing relative to what the Bible says about a man that fails to provide for is own.
America has a 40% illegitimacy rate because people refuse to rebuke sin, or take the John Edwards approach to sin.
Source? How does this compare to the less Christian nations Clirus? How does this compare between conservative and liberal states in the US?
Check this map on divorce rates in the US: Divorce Rate by state. Definition, graph and map.
Also, check teenage pregnancies:
Teen Birth Rate per 1,000 (most recent) by state
Even though evil can be tolerated, it should be rebuked, and advocating evil should be rejected. Advocating evil can be anything from portraying an evil activity as fun with no consequences to the John Edwards attitude that "I would not do it, but I would not be bothered if others did it".
So.. Are you surprised we rebuke you because of your evil ways?
Hence I don't let your support of evil pass without commentI seriously question that God will accept the silence of Christians that should be the light, but rather hide it under a basket.
Yet you refuse any admonition anyone gives you. Which is not proper christian behavior, is it?Christians should warn people (be salt and light),
And how does history tell us that works Clirus?Civil Law should control, restrict, destroy, force, etc. people.
Yet you ignore much to most of what the new testament says and even much of the old testament. Even to the point of direct contradiction.Christians should advocate that which is good and healthy for society as described in the Bible.
Do you want to execute the poor too Clirus?Civil Law should control, restrict, destroy, force, etc. that which is harmful (disease, death, destruction and poverty) to society.
"Judge not lest ye be judged", "Love your enemies", "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you"Congress (as the representatives of the people) defines Civil Law. If the laws that Congress defines are consistent with the Christian Lifestyle (God's Law), the people who practice evil will suffer.
Ring a bell?
But... We formed our nation on such laws. Laws which we built on the bible, though you would certainly call them evil as they are often in direct contradiction to your ways. And now we're at the top of the HDI. We don't suffer from it, in fact it's the exact opposite.If the laws that Congress defines are consistent with the Atheistic Lifestyle, everyone will suffer.
I say that your position is anti-christian and highly destructive.
And yet you embrace sin like a drowning man would a piece of driftwood. Clinging to it as if it was your savior. Only in your case it's not a log, it's a crocodile.Civil Law consistent with the Atheistic Lifestyle cause suffering for everyone because the Christens suffer under the law, and the Atheists suffer because of the sin the law allows. Romans 6:23 states, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
And we wonder what is wrong with America. Matthew 5:13 states, "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under the foot of men."
And you know what's really funny about that? The more you guys lean towards your conservative side the worse it gets. Oh sure you blame the liberals at every bend and turn, but why does the exact same thing show itself in other nations? When conservatives come to power there's often some destructive consequence. Esp. if these conservatives are like you are.
Clirus, if you were right your position - which has been tried at several points in history - would have produced better nations and better systems. It has not. It has led to hunger, strife, war, revolutions and other atrocious things.
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