Hypocrisy of the Democrats: Building Walls and Demading ID

[Adam56]

I see you're changing the subject now.

No im saying you need to be willing to get a photo ID.

Laziness is not an excuse. This “I shouldn’t have to lift a finger” reeks of entitlement and laziness.

 

[NxNW]

The

here:

The vast majority of the quoted material was not my words. You've misattributed someone else's words as mine. You'll note that I also referred to a multiple demographics who have been victimized by GOP targeting, while you focused on one.

 

[Adam56]

multiple demographics who have been victimized by GOP targeting,

No, there is no GOP targeting. Elderly people generally vote Republican. GOP wants elderly people voting.

 

[Belk]

I would like someone to give a rational reason for opposing voter ID.

It has been used in the past to disenfranchise certain voting blocks. If it can be set up so that it does not interfere with the right to vote no one will be opposed.

 

[comana]

Are you suggesting I don’t have sources? Or just that you would just brush them off as if they’re nothing?

Feel free to provide a source comparing men’s testosterone levels vs their political leanings.

 

[Adam56]

Feel free to provide a source comparing men’s testosterone levels vs their political leanings.

Testosterone Administration Induces A Red Shift in Democrats

Testosterone administration modulates inequality aversion in healthy males: evidence from computational modeling - PubMed

Fairness concerns play a prominent role in promoting cooperation in human societies. Social preferences involving fairness concern have been associated with individual testosterone levels. However, the causal effects of testosterone administration on fairness-related decision making remain to be...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Does Testosterone Affect Your Politics?

The far right seized upon a study that said administering T could cause a “red shift” in Democrats. Reality isn't so simple.

www.vice.com

https://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1421&context=cgu_etd

 

[Pommer]

That if Dems want measures for guns then the same should be applied to voting.

We should have universal background checks for every member of the electorate?
My, won’t that be fun!

 

[rjs330]

The founding fathers did not envision us having a standing army and so they wrote in provisions to ensure a "well regulated militia". How does one have a "well regulated militia" without regulations?

It's ordered and organized. That's what it meant. It had nothing to do with regulating what kinds of guns people could have or what they had to do in order to have a gun or carry one.

Yes they were concerned over a standing army and knew the citizens needed to be able to be armed as a militia.

“Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”

Patrick Henry

“None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army.”

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to unknown recipient, February 25, 1803
The Constitutions of most of our states assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, (as in electing their functionaries executive and legislative, and deciding by a jury of themselves, both fact and law, in all judiciary cases in which any fact is involved) or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person; freedom of religion; freedom of property; and freedom of the press.”

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824

In letters, and speeches the founders all clearly indicate freedom requires an armed populace. None of them ever indicated that there should be regulations on the people who want to own and carry guns.

 

[rjs330]

I don't see why. It's a constitutional mandate that guns be regulated.

No there isn't.

 

[wing2000]

The point is that Democrats claim walls don’t work.

My point is your argument falls flat. A convention is a not border.

There’s a reason it’s called “manhood.”

(Not that I have anything against couples who have legit fertility issues btw)

...but you do with a vasectomy?

 

[ralliann]

Did I say anything about black people?

There is no excuse for not having voter ID. Those that "truly" needing assistance getting voting ID can be helped. Which would be ridiculously rare.

 

[ralliann]

Not in any way that forces citizens to spend time and/or money to obtain documentation in order to exercise their constitutional right to vote.

So, it is no longer about ability at all. It is about choice. To bad, voting is an important function or it is not to a person.

 

[Adam56]

There is no excuse for not having voter ID. Those that "truly" needing assistance getting voting ID can be helped. Which would be ridiculously rare.

@FreeinChrist talked about long lines.

These people love to grasp at straws for why voting is being interferes with. It reminds me of Sam Harris arguing free will doesn’t exist.

 

[A_JAY]

I would like someone to give a rational reason for opposing voter ID.

Yawn.... nobody opposed it here.

 

[Adam56]

Yawn....

your passive aggressiveness is lame.

nobody opposed it here.

Don’t play dumb.

 

[FreeinChrist]

@FreeinChrist talked about long lines.

These people love to grasp at straws for why voting is being interferes with. It reminds me of Sam Harris arguing free will doesn’t exist.

My advice is to read more about the topic and not claim other people are "grasping at straws."


to suppress votes, Georgia reduced polling places in certain neighborhoods.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl

Kathy spotted the long line of voters as she pulled into the Christian City Welcome Center about 3:30 p.m., ready to cast her ballot in the June 9 primary election.​

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Hundreds of people were waiting in the heat and rain outside the lush, tree-lined complex in Union City, an Atlanta suburb with 22,400 residents, nearly 88% of them Black. She briefly considered not casting a ballot at all, but decided to stay.​

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By the time she got inside more than five hours later, the polls had officially closed and the electronic scanners were shut down. Poll workers told her she'd have to cast a provisional ballot, but they promised that her vote would be counted.​

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"I'm now angry again, I'm frustrated again, and now I have an added emotion, which is anxiety," said Kathy, a human services worker, recalling her emotions at the time. She asked that her full name not be used because she fears repercussions from speaking out. "I'm wondering if my ballot is going to count."​

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By the time the last voter finally got inside the welcome center to cast a ballot, it was the next day, June 10.​

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Extreme voting lines expose where Georgia primary failed

Georgia's primary collapsed under the load of the coronavirus and high turnout, forcing 11% of polling places to close at least an hour late. Long lines to vote occurred especially in majority Black neighborhoods following precinct closures, according to an analysis of state election data by The...

www.ajc.com

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Long Lines, Short Windows: How Georgia’s New Restrictive Voting Law Complicates the Senate Runoff - Bolts

With voting underway in the 2022 Georgia Senate runoff, voters have taken to the polls en masse, but are having to overcome significant logistical hurdles to make their voices heard... Read More

boltsmag.org

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With voting underway in the 2022 Georgia Senate runoff, voters have taken to the polls en masse, but are having to overcome significant logistical hurdles to make their voices heard at the ballot box.​

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From the very first days of early voting, voters queued in long lines all around the state waiting to cast their ballots in person. Some polling sites in the Atlanta metro area had estimated wait times of two to three hours.​

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A handful of counties offered Saturday voting on Nov. 26 after Thanksgiving, despite objections from the state’s Republican leadership, such as Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. The majority of the state opened the polls on Monday Nov. 28, which saw a record 300,000 people turn out. According to the secretary of state’s website, more than 1.7 million votes have been cast in early voting so far......​

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The bill, signed into law by Governor Brian Kemp in 2021 with support from Raffensperger and other Georgia Republicans, created myriad new obstacles for people who want to take part in the runoff. It has meant, for one, that people could not register to vote after Nov. 8 because there isn’t enough time for them to get on the voter rolls, unlike in the run-up to the 2021 runoffs.​

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It also shortens the window to vote by mail, a procedure that Democrats have rushed toward since the pandemic; voters had less time to request a mail-in ballot (that deadline was Nov. 25) and must mail it back by the deadline of runoff Election Day. It also limited the use of secure absentee ballot drop boxes to only during the early voting period. Ballot drop-off was further restricted to the times early voting polling stations are open, versus 24-hour availability in 2020.​

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Rather than make ignorant comments about other members and tagging them, DO SOME READING.

 

[Adam56]

My advice is to read more about the topic and not claim other people are "grasping at straws."


to suppress votes, Georgia reduced polling places in certain neighborhoods.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl

Kathy spotted the long line of voters as she pulled into the Christian City Welcome Center about 3:30 p.m., ready to cast her ballot in the June 9 primary election.​

​

Hundreds of people were waiting in the heat and rain outside the lush, tree-lined complex in Union City, an Atlanta suburb with 22,400 residents, nearly 88% of them Black. She briefly considered not casting a ballot at all, but decided to stay.​

​

By the time she got inside more than five hours later, the polls had officially closed and the electronic scanners were shut down. Poll workers told her she'd have to cast a provisional ballot, but they promised that her vote would be counted.​

​

"I'm now angry again, I'm frustrated again, and now I have an added emotion, which is anxiety," said Kathy, a human services worker, recalling her emotions at the time. She asked that her full name not be used because she fears repercussions from speaking out. "I'm wondering if my ballot is going to count."​

​

By the time the last voter finally got inside the welcome center to cast a ballot, it was the next day, June 10.​

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​

Extreme voting lines expose where Georgia primary failed

Georgia's primary collapsed under the load of the coronavirus and high turnout, forcing 11% of polling places to close at least an hour late. Long lines to vote occurred especially in majority Black neighborhoods following precinct closures, according to an analysis of state election data by The...

www.ajc.com

​

Long Lines, Short Windows: How Georgia’s New Restrictive Voting Law Complicates the Senate Runoff - Bolts

With voting underway in the 2022 Georgia Senate runoff, voters have taken to the polls en masse, but are having to overcome significant logistical hurdles to make their voices heard... Read More

boltsmag.org

​

With voting underway in the 2022 Georgia Senate runoff, voters have taken to the polls en masse, but are having to overcome significant logistical hurdles to make their voices heard at the ballot box.​

​

From the very first days of early voting, voters queued in long lines all around the state waiting to cast their ballots in person. Some polling sites in the Atlanta metro area had estimated wait times of two to three hours.​

​

A handful of counties offered Saturday voting on Nov. 26 after Thanksgiving, despite objections from the state’s Republican leadership, such as Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. The majority of the state opened the polls on Monday Nov. 28, which saw a record 300,000 people turn out. According to the secretary of state’s website, more than 1.7 million votes have been cast in early voting so far......​

​

The bill, signed into law by Governor Brian Kemp in 2021 with support from Raffensperger and other Georgia Republicans, created myriad new obstacles for people who want to take part in the runoff. It has meant, for one, that people could not register to vote after Nov. 8 because there isn’t enough time for them to get on the voter rolls, unlike in the run-up to the 2021 runoffs.​

​

It also shortens the window to vote by mail, a procedure that Democrats have rushed toward since the pandemic; voters had less time to request a mail-in ballot (that deadline was Nov. 25) and must mail it back by the deadline of runoff Election Day. It also limited the use of secure absentee ballot drop boxes to only during the early voting period. Ballot drop-off was further restricted to the times early voting polling stations are open, versus 24-hour availability in 2020.​

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Rather than make ignorant comments about other members and tagging them, DO SOME READING.

I read it. I don’t see your point. Are you making the argument her late vote didn’t count despite them saying it would count?

 

[Adam56]

She briefly considered not casting a ballot at all, but decided to stay.

Best line of them all. She made a choice based on free will.

After all, she’s a human, not an animal! She doesn’t run on just impulses.

 

[A_JAY]

your passive aggressiveness is lame.

Do not make personal attacks.

 

[Adam56]

Do not make personal attacks.

So you’re suggesting you can be passive aggressive, and when I point out your BEHAVIOR, that’s bad?

No, you need to adjust your behavior and you’re not immune to criticism. You saying “yawn” is a clear passive aggressive attack, don’t try beating around the bush.