Humans are not self-aware

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Are you implying that I am not seeking truth?

Lord Jess says He is THE TRUTH. Do you seek Him?

A description based on or in accordance with reason or logic.

What is reasonable and logical to me is God.

You wouldn't understand

TOUCHE'

I've had a variety of transcendent experiences, but whether they might be considered religious is a matter of interpretation - I experienced them as extreme distortions of my perception of the environment, my sense of self, bounds of self, location of self, emotional state, etc., i.e. unusual neurological activity associated with my perception and self image. Someone else might have experienced them as religious visions, transport to another plane, sensing the sublime or God's love, oneness with the universe or God, etc.

OK so you have been high.

It makes no sense to me because 'He' is just a pronoun - you haven't explained or described what it is about Him that inspires your belief.

He loves me. And He loves you too.

 

[Ophiolite]

Explain to me what you understand about being born into your family. That ought to be simple.

What makes you think it is simple? A cursory glance at the question suggests one could readily produce a book length treatment. Which aspect are you focused on?

• The Physical
• The Medical
• The Social
• The Cultural
• The Religious
• The Emotional
• The Developmental
• The Political
• The Psychological
• The Educational
• The Introspective
• Etc.

Perhaps you can interpolate a provisional answer from the list. Being born into a family involves a complex interplay of interpersonal relationships, personal development, integration into society, education and so forth.

Now, given that you feel the explanation is simple, would you explain to me what you understand about being born into your family.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Now, given that you feel the explanation is simple, would you explain to me what you understand about being born into your family.

I was born to my parents.I am their child. I have all of the rights and privileges that comes with being their child.I will always be their child. That is simple.

 

[Ophiolite]

I was born to my parents.I am their child. I have all of the rights and privileges that comes with being their child.I will always be their child. That is simple.

One might be tempted, I would be tempted, to call it over-simple. It focuses in on a very narrow area of being born and attaches some questionable assumptions. (You assume that there are rights and privileges.)
I am surprised that a Christian would fail, completely, to note the obligations that exist. I would argue that the obligations, which are self-generated and accepted, are more important than the rights and privileges.
Consequently, I am at something of a loss as to what you a driving at. Would you like to get to the point, or shall I infer you are playing games?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

One might be tempted, I would be tempted, to call it over-simple. It focuses in on a very narrow area of being born and attaches some questionable assumptions. (You assume that there are rights and privileges.)
I am surprised that a Christian would fail, completely, to note the obligations that exist. I would argue that the obligations, which are self-generated and accepted, are more important than the rights and privileges.
Consequently, I am at something of a loss as to what you a driving at. Would you like to get to the point, or shall I infer you are playing games?

I told you that you wouldn't understand. I am done responding to you.

 

[Ophiolite]

I told you that you wouldn't understand. I am done responding to you.

Really! Any failure to understand is a direct consequence of your disingenuous, verging on dishonest, manner of posting.

If you choose to speak in riddles, make vague references, ask misleading questions, fail to respond in any direct way to my observations, ignore the honesty of my attempts to communicate and generally speaking try to play me like a fool, then it will not be surprising that the end result is what you intended.

Done responding to me? Don't make me laugh, those were not responses, those were cheap card tricks.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Lord Jess says He is THE TRUTH. Do you seek Him?

Carl Williams called himself 'The Truth', but it was just a name. I generally take people who say they're 'The Truth' with a pinch of salt. It's a 'deepity'.

What is reasonable and logical to me is God.

Another non-sequitur evasion. You really are unwilling or unable to engage on this.

OK so you have been high.

If you like - it's one way of describing transcendent religious experience. Drugs can produce very similar brain states, but they're not essential.

He loves me. And He loves you too.

So you say, without evidence or reasoned argument. I refer you back to the discussion on self-awareness.

 

[SkyWriting]

noun
noun: self-awareness
conscious knowledge of one's own character, feelings, motives, and desires. - Oxford

But the truth is, you do not have control nor awareness of your feelings and desires. You are programmed to make specific response based on specific circumstances. These feelings and desires are not your own. These are imprinted on you by the collective will of our society.

And on yourself, by yourself.
Every person is a mixture of their past plus their current environment.
But you can always change your environment even if only by changing
what you are thinking about.

Because your imagination can alter your environment.

 

[SkyWriting]

I'm an engineer and an inventor.

But even in this field, the collective human programming exerts a very strong influence on the engineers and scientists themselves.

True. But you can alter your own programming with imagination.

For example, you can't push a pencil through a book.
But magicians do it everyday. They practice the impossible
until it finally happens.

 

[timewerx]

And on yourself, by yourself.
Every person is a mixture of their past plus their current environment.
But you can always change your environment even if only by changing
what you are thinking about.

Because your imagination can alter your environment.

Only an exceedingly tiny % of the human population can actually realize those sayings to such extent, it makes a substantial change not only to their immediate environment but to the whole world they live in.

If left uninhibited, the vast majority would make things a lot worse.

The path to destruction is paved with good intentions.

The path to life is only concerned with the truth.

 

[SkyWriting]

Only an exceedingly tiny % of the human population can actually realize those sayings to such extent, it makes a substantial change not only to their immediate environment but to the whole world they live in.

It is how you step over a rock on the ground. You are moving the direction you want to go, and your own personal experience says if you lift your foot high enough you can avoid the pebble. Society has no influence, because you can walk around the rock, or kick the rock, or turn and walk away. This works with pebbles, steps, jobs, what partner you choose, what house you choose, the clothes you wear, how often you wash your face....all personal choices. For example, people with kinky hair. I have no idea how often they wash it. Every day or once a month. I have no idea. Society has only the tiniest restrictions on your choices, within the limits of not destroying yourself or others. Outside of that, you can live any life you choose. If you need more freedom, up can live in the wilderness in Alaska and harm yourself there. You have infinite choices.

Chris McCandless Hiked Into The Alaskan Wild And Never Returned.

 

[SkyWriting]

Only an exceedingly tiny % of the human population can actually realize those sayings to such extent, it makes a substantial change not only to their immediate environment but to the whole world they live in.

True. Few take that path and choose not to.

 

[timewerx]

Society has no influence, because you can walk around the rock, or kick the rock, or turn and walk away. This works with pebbles, steps, jobs, what partner you choose, what house you choose, the clothes you wear, how often you wash your face....all personal choices. For example, people with kinky hair. I have no idea how often they wash it. Every day or once a month. I have no idea. Society has only the tiniest restrictions on your choices, within the limits of not destroying yourself or others. Outside of that, you can live any life you choose. If you need more freedom, up can live in the wilderness in Alaska and harm yourself there. You have infinite choices.

Those are choices that don't make any difference in the grand scheme of things.

True. Few take that path and choose not to.

Hollywood programming

Conditioning good people to NOT Matter to NOT act. Geniuses wasting their talents on miniscule things because they think that's humility (or rather false humility)

While anyone who uses the maximum extent of the abilities, talents, even supernatural abilities to realize their goals are seen as evil, villains.

Luke 6:22
Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

It is not humility when you think you have what it takes to achieve something huge but chose not to but take life easy, retire somewhere peaceful. That's laziness. And laziness is a sin. Much is given, much will be asked. What is given is not a privelege, it's a responsibility.

There's a saying "there is no rest for wicked". Ironically, the opposite of that is the truth "there is no rest for those who seek Christ"


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[SkyWriting]

Those are choices that don't make any difference in the grand scheme of things.
.

Most of your decisions each day are ones that keep you from dying.
Food, Water, breathing, and avoiding traffic.

What are the leading causes of death in the US?

• Heart disease.
• Cancer.
• Unintentional injuries.
• Chronic lower respiratory disease.
• Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases.
• Alzheimer's disease.
• Diabetes.
• Influenza and pneumonia.

 

[SkyWriting]

While anyone who uses the maximum extent of the abilities, talents, even supernatural abilities to realize their goals are seen as evil, villains.

I can't think of any examples for you.





Cornelius Vanderbilt (May 27, 1794 – 1877) Vanderbilt amassed his fortune through his dominance of railroads and shipping. He built and controlled many of the most significant railroads in America, such as the New York railroad and the Grand Central Terminal.

Andrew Carnegie (1835 – 1919) Born in Scotland, Carnegie moved to America where he became very wealthy through dominating the US steel industry. After selling his steel corporation in 1901, he gave away $350 million in the last 18 years of his life.

John Pierpont “J. P.” Morgan (1837 – 1913) J.P.Morgan built a financial empire based on banking, and investment. He arranged the biggest mergers of his day. Morgan was a key player in the formation of great corporations such as General Electric 1892 and the US steel corporation. On his death, he left $68.3 million ($1.39 billion adjusted for inflation)

John D. Rockefeller (1839 – 1937) Rockefeller founded Standard Oil in 1870; the firm soon gained monopoly power over the production and distribution of oil. It was estimated Rockefeller controlled 90% of US oil. He was America’s first billionaire and widely regarded as the richest man of the modern world. His fortune peaked in 1913 at $336 billion. (inflation-adjusted for 2007)

Bill Gates (1955 – ) American businessman, founder of Microsoft. According to Forbes, he was the richest man in the world from 1995 to 2007. His net worth in 2012 is estimated at $76.8 billion. He has recently focused on philanthropy – giving away a large portion of his personal fortune through the Gates Foundation.

Larry Page (1973 – ) / Sergey Brin (1973 – ) Co-founder of Google. Google has displayed one of the most dramatic growth of any business. From humble beginnings, Google is now an international giant dominating internet search.

Steve Jobs (1955 – 2012) Key figure in Apple computers. Credited with turning around Apple, and overseeing the development of iPod, iPad and iMac revolution, which saw Apple become one of most successful companies.

Richard Branson (1950 – ) British entrepreneur. Founder of Virgin. Richard Branson set up his business from a small record shop and has since successfully expanded into a variety of industries, such as trains, air flights and personal finance.

Walt Disney (1901 – 1966) American film producer. Disney developed cartoon characters, such as Mickey Mouse and founded the popular Disney theme parks. Disney productions are one of biggest film producers in the US.

Henry Ford (1863 – 1947) US Industrialist who helped promote the auto revolution, mass producing Ford cars at low cost, enabling Ford motors to become a successful multinational.

Authors
J.K.Rowling (1965 – ) British author of Harry Potter series, which has become the best selling series in history – selling over 400 million copies. When she began writing Harry Potter, she was living on state benefits, but now is a multi-millionaire, with a net worth of over $1 billion.

J.R.R. Tolkien (1892- 1973) – British author of The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings has frequently been voted most popular book of the Twentieth Century and his works led to a resurgence of the ‘High Fantasy’ genre.

Stephen King (1947 – ) Best selling American author. Selling over 350 million copies of his horror genre books.

Music success
John Lennon (1940 – 1980) British pop star and key member of the Beatles. The Beatles are widely considered the most influential pop music group of all time. John Lennon also had a successful solo career before his murder.

Michael Jackson (1958 – 2009) – American pop singer. Jackson’s 1982 album ‘Thriller’ is the best selling album of all time. Jackson dominated pop music in the early 1980s and produced influential, groundbreaking pop music videos. Has an estimated sale of 400 million records worldwide and is the most downloaded artist in history.

Madonna (1958 – ) American pop singer/actress and humanitarian. Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time.

Alfred Hitchcock, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Oprah Winfrey,PelePele,Usain Bolt,Michael Phelps,Lionel Messi,Roger Federer,Michael Jordan,Billie Jean King ,Christiano Ronaldo,Serena Williams,George Washington,Abraham Lincoln,Emmeline Pankhurst,Emily Murphy,Nelson Mandela,Martin Luther King,Lech Walesa,Pope Francis,Billy Graham,Sir Isaac Newton,Leonhard Euler,Edward Jenner,Louis Pasteur,Albert Einstein,Tim Berners Lee,Alexander the Great,Julius Caesar,Akbar,Napoleon Bonaparte,Winston Churchill,Dwight Eisenhower

 

[Larniavc]

Your self awareness and life ended in childhood. You are no longer alive. You will respond in a very predictable manner because you live according to your programming.

Yeah, but what are you gonna do?

 

[timewerx]

Most of your decisions each day are ones that keep you from dying.
Food, Water, breathing, and avoiding traffic.

I'm assuming everyone does it already, including myself that's why I didn't mention it.

What you do in your free time is the one that will be acounted of us. (you don't have to tell me what you do in your free time, these are secrets we keep)

Free time is a resource just like money. Just like money, there are lots of things you can do with free time. That is why they say "time is gold" and that is only partially true because time is actually more precious than money, more precious than gold.

 

[timewerx]

I can't think of any examples for you.

Cornelius Vanderbilt (May 27, 1794 – 1877) Vanderbilt amassed his fortune through his dominance of railroads and shipping. He built and controlled many of the most significant railroads in America, such as the New York railroad and the Grand Central Terminal.

Andrew Carnegie (1835 – 1919) Born in Scotland, Carnegie moved to America where he became very wealthy through dominating the US steel industry. After selling his steel corporation in 1901, he gave away $350 million in the last 18 years of his life.

John Pierpont “J. P.” Morgan (1837 – 1913) J.P.Morgan built a financial empire based on banking, and investment. He arranged the biggest mergers of his day. Morgan was a key player in the formation of great corporations such as General Electric 1892 and the US steel corporation. On his death, he left $68.3 million ($1.39 billion adjusted for inflation)

John D. Rockefeller (1839 – 1937) Rockefeller founded Standard Oil in 1870; the firm soon gained monopoly power over the production and distribution of oil. It was estimated Rockefeller controlled 90% of US oil. He was America’s first billionaire and widely regarded as the richest man of the modern world. His fortune peaked in 1913 at $336 billion. (inflation-adjusted for 2007)

Bill Gates (1955 – ) American businessman, founder of Microsoft. According to Forbes, he was the richest man in the world from 1995 to 2007. His net worth in 2012 is estimated at $76.8 billion. He has recently focused on philanthropy – giving away a large portion of his personal fortune through the Gates Foundation.

Larry Page (1973 – ) / Sergey Brin (1973 – ) Co-founder of Google. Google has displayed one of the most dramatic growth of any business. From humble beginnings, Google is now an international giant dominating internet search.

Steve Jobs (1955 – 2012) Key figure in Apple computers. Credited with turning around Apple, and overseeing the development of iPod, iPad and iMac revolution, which saw Apple become one of most successful companies.

Richard Branson (1950 – ) British entrepreneur. Founder of Virgin. Richard Branson set up his business from a small record shop and has since successfully expanded into a variety of industries, such as trains, air flights and personal finance.

Walt Disney (1901 – 1966) American film producer. Disney developed cartoon characters, such as Mickey Mouse and founded the popular Disney theme parks. Disney productions are one of biggest film producers in the US.

Henry Ford (1863 – 1947) US Industrialist who helped promote the auto revolution, mass producing Ford cars at low cost, enabling Ford motors to become a successful multinational.

Authors
J.K.Rowling (1965 – ) British author of Harry Potter series, which has become the best selling series in history – selling over 400 million copies. When she began writing Harry Potter, she was living on state benefits, but now is a multi-millionaire, with a net worth of over $1 billion.

J.R.R. Tolkien (1892- 1973) – British author of The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings has frequently been voted most popular book of the Twentieth Century and his works led to a resurgence of the ‘High Fantasy’ genre.

Stephen King (1947 – ) Best selling American author. Selling over 350 million copies of his horror genre books.

Music success
John Lennon (1940 – 1980) British pop star and key member of the Beatles. The Beatles are widely considered the most influential pop music group of all time. John Lennon also had a successful solo career before his murder.

Michael Jackson (1958 – 2009) – American pop singer. Jackson’s 1982 album ‘Thriller’ is the best selling album of all time. Jackson dominated pop music in the early 1980s and produced influential, groundbreaking pop music videos. Has an estimated sale of 400 million records worldwide and is the most downloaded artist in history.

MadonnaMadonna (1958 – ) American pop singer/actress and humanitarian. Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time.

Bill Gates is probably a good enough example.

The vast majority are not Godly. While some of them contribute to the Humanitarian cause but just enough to look good to the public, but not enough to make a real difference.

"They only gave out of their abundance but never giving their everything" This is what our Lord wants and frankly, secularly-speaking, that is what our world needs as well.

I'm not suggesting they give away all their money. But instead use their free time to seek more ambitious goals. They have the money and resources to pull it off.

I know what it is to have your heart in the right place. It doesn't feel like work anymore to do anything to reach your goal. You and the goal becomes one.

A lot of people only work so they can "play" because they have no real goals. They got the idea from the TV or friends or magazines, their neighbors, no true orginality.

 

[SkyWriting]

What you do in your free time is the one that will be accounted of us. (you don't have to tell me what you do in your free time, these are secrets we keep)

I am building an impact based business that will result in an impact training system for people to do the same as me.


This is the model I am using, though the location may be different.
This particular property may be sold too soon for my schedule.

 

[timewerx]

And then there's the supernatural gifts, the thing everyone is so scared about and treats them like a horror movie coming to life.

The things that can literally turn the world upside down.