Most likely the major proponents of both sides of this issue have/had an equal level of education and knowledge. However they both accuse each other of ignorance and not rightly dividing the word.
There are many good scholars that produce profitable works that can benefit us in our understanding of the faith in one manner or another-or in supporting one position or another. They can also vehemently disagree with each other on relevant matters. And this helps highlight the point. Our faith is not and must not be derived merely from the opinions of this highly educated bible scholar or that one, as if best exegesis is all it's about. Our faith is about an experience with God, primarily God the Son, and that experience and the knowledge given didn't result from a group of scholars poring over ancient or modern texts or archeological data et al. The apostles and disciples received this revelation and passed it down to others who would follow them.
Many of the beliefs expressed here on this thread are really simply
intellectual concepts, rightly or wrongly gleaned from scripture, sometimes based on a focused emphasis on isolated passages to the exclusion of others, and then stood on as if they were personal revelations from God.
As for me it doesn't matter much on a personal level, because I'm one of those who chooses to follow the commandments of Jesus, even if there was no heaven or hell. I even started a thread about that some time ago.
That's good of course-and it's
also good to know, on a unified and universal level, what, exactly He expects of us.
There's ancient church doctrine that was established before Jesus, Peter, Paul and James etc? That is apart from scripture? What was it derived from then?
Again, the New Testament was written decades after the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus-and His gospel was held and proclaimed before those writings existed nonetheless.
So you're saying debates, disagreements and revisions etc never took place after day one, until the reformation? From what I've heard from church history and patristics experts (including Catholic ones), that's definitely not been the case at all.
Heated debates have taken place and continue to this day. Sometimes important dogma has been hammered out at council due to controversies. Just as an example, due to the Pelagian controversy the church produced a declaration at council on the incontrovertible and absolute need for grace in order for man to be found, justified and saved. In any case theologians and ECFs as individuals are presumably never 100% correct in everything they hold and teach. But it's never been
up to them-it's been up to the c
hurch to decide and speak on these matters, as the place where the buck stops. There
is no such place in Protestantism. They point to the bible as authoritative-and then often disagree on what it means to say-since it can't necessarily speak up for itself and resolve questions when they arise. So it then really comes down to the
reader answering his
own questions, serving as pope or the authority in any case, for all practical purposes.
A brief current events search says: "The Pope's statement clearly contradicts what has been the long-standing teaching of the Church about same-sex unions".
There's hardly been rock solid doctrine, theology and policy since day one. Very far from it.
On all the basics of the faith regarding salvation there's been a consistent unified teaching-even between the eastern and western churches after centuries of isolation. These are remarkably the same especially when compared to often widely divergent views to be found within Protestantism, based on Scripture alone.
The church has and will continue to deny the sacramentality of same sex unions-these lack the necessary ingredients to be considered a valid marriage in God's eyes- and the doctrine of infallibility only guarantees that no error will enter church teachings on faith and morals for the purpose of the salvation of man. The current pope has made no such changes in the teachings of the church.