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I'm a bit surprised at all the pushback and hostility towards the OP. His teaching is pretty close to that of Charles Stanley for the most part as far as I can tell. Perhaps it was his delivery that riled folks so much.
speaking for myself I just don’t like to hear falsities or part truths regarding how one walks in the Spirit, what it means to be holy in Gods eyes, what is expected of man. That’s just me tho.
IF John is a sinner then He's not born again.
There are no sinners found in heaven.
So, a person has to be changed from sinner to "made righteous" while you are breathing or Hell is waiting after they die.
This is why Jesus said..>"you MUST be born again".
As this new birth is the change from SINNER to "the Righteousness of God IN Christ".
All who are born again, are already a part of God's Holy Spirit. They have become....>"ONE with GOD, in Christ".
If a person is not born again then they are damned while they are yet breathing, and are waiting for the end result. John 3:36
You claim that a person who is born again cannot sin yet Paul constantly warned believers who were “sealed with the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption” not to sin.
Ah Ephesians 4:30, that's a favorite verse of the once saved always saved group.
Ah Ephesians 4:30, that's a favorite verse of the once saved always saved group.
Yes and it’s right smack in the middle of Paul’s warning to believers about turning back to a sinful lifestyle. It begins in verse 17 I believe and continues on into chapter 5 and ironically enough it’s often referred to as “The Christian’s Walk”. But this is only one of several examples of Paul warning believers not to turn back to sin. Romans 6 comes to mind right off hand. I believe Peter was already born again when he denied Christ 3 times.
That's not quite what he said. He said when he teaches publicly people take notes. And the way to take notes when he's teaching on a forum, is to print out his threads. My guess is, like me, he's been on other forums over the years.
So it follows that "faith without works is dead" even in the Pauline dispensation. And then predestination becomes foreknowledge, straight up. God didn't choose people He knew were going to be sinners from the cradle to the hearse... that original sin thing isn't part of the Kingdom Gospel, thank God!
I personally believe that Death is another name for Satan, given Revelation's pale horse riding with great wrath and dragging his believers to hell, and the defeat of Death by Way of the Resurrection (no matter how many times I tried to get Sidon to figure it out, the light bulb never came on).
p.s.2, and your "fallen from grace"
Are you now trying to pretend that 1 Corinthians 15:1-7 isn't really the Pauline gospel?
God has expectations of His children and failure to meet those expectations will result in condemnation. Luke 13:6-9
No I’m just saying that I find it amazing that you have so many people printing your threads because they like them so much but yet none of them give a like or agree rating to any of your posts.
Because you pretend there is no credible Scholarship that says Hebrews was written by Barnabus... there's this:
Authorship of the Epistle to the Hebrews | Religious Studies Center
I would say happy reading... but you probably don't have time to be right.
And I'm here to make sure that you don't root up what's already been planted by God.
Gosh, thank you. I can revise-I mean divide-Scripture to fit my theology too. Maybe you could tackle some of the others I listed as well?
Ok, and didn't put to death the deeds of the flesh and didn't persevere or endure to the end, weren't vigilant, didn't strive to be perfect and holy, maybe didn't feed any of the hungry or clothe the naked, broke commandments, even if they were born again. As Scripture says, right?
I think Sidon slipped the leash and ran off to create more threads...
So... by their lack of fruits ye shall know them?
"fallen from Grace" is any born again person who believes they can lose their salvation.
Paul is the greatest Christian who ever lived.
Im just me, doing what i can.
Its interesting to note that if a legalist wanted to try to make a case for self saving, then Paul would be a great example, right until he defines all self righteousness and law keeping and being a Pharisee, and "blameless in the law", ....which is all he described Himself to be, as well as from the Tribe of Ben.....yet he classified all this as dung.
He was not classifying the law, or the commandments, as dung, He was classifying trying to do all that, to be accepted by God as "dung".
Lots of believers are theologically and self righteously stuck in this "dung"...... also found teaching their Legalism (dung) as well.
I understand what you've been saying. That's why when you said "Also, as you said, it is exactly Christ rejection that is the heart of damnation", it seemed like it might be a contradiction. But I get it. And needless to say usually the term "carnal Christian" is talking about a Christian who leads a hedonistic lifestyle, rather than one who's trying to be good enough.
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